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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Bunton

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 09/05/2024 16:46

Emma Bunton has posted a picture tribute for her son Tate's 13th birthday with a hashtag #shesmybaby. The 3 young people pictured all have long hair so my initial thought was 'her son must be trans'.

KJK has posted a video saying if she calls her son she/her then she's a child abuser. Not sure what to make of it. I get where KJK is coming from but child abuser?

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JamesPringle · 09/05/2024 17:30

Calling her a child abuser is ludicrous. KJK is working very hard to discredit the whole GC movement imo. These kinds of ridiculous comments overshadow the balanced, reasonable arguments that many people have carefully formed due to concern about children taking puberty blockers, having life-changing surgery etc. KJK is doing the GC movement no favours at all.

Completely agree with this.

midgetastic · 09/05/2024 23:42

Omg

Dh has long hair

I'll tell him he's trans

May2024 · 10/05/2024 07:07

So ... Baby Spice's son liked dolls when he was young and now has long hair and is being outed as "trans" at 13 ... fucking 13 years old??!!

What the fuck is wrong with her?? She one of the cool kids now as she has a "trans" kid??

13!! What the actual fuck. As you can see I'm completely gob smacked! What is wrong with these "celebrities"

Why not just say Happy Birthday Tate on Insta. So much for wanting to keep her kids out the public eye. Fucking narcissists the lot of them!

Her and David Tenant need to meet with each other in a decade or so and cry over the damage they've done to their kids!

And why did no one started a thread on his insane chat the other day? Maybe I will now!

I used to love him as an actor now I feel is complete contempt when I see him on the screen.

Floisme · 10/05/2024 08:46

I don't know Tate or Emma's story and I did find what KJK wrote quite shocking, but then so, I think, is pretending to your child that they can change sex.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 10/05/2024 08:55

Sarah2891 · 09/05/2024 17:10

Yes her son is trans. Calling her a child abuser is pretty ridiculous.

Why? Is it because transing a child is a mainly middle-class fad and as a society we're reluctant to face up to the scale of abuse perpetrated by the middle-class as a group? Because it certainly is an abusive act imo.

WickedSerious · 10/05/2024 09:24

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INeedAPensieve · 10/05/2024 09:31

What was it David Tennant said @May2024 ?

Also that interview with Emma 8 years ago about her wee boy playing with dolls and how it was fine etc was very refreshing. I wonder at the change now; growing your hair long, liking dolls and "girly" things (as a boy) does not mean you are therefore a girl. It's SO regressive! As a wee girl my sister and I played with HeMan and thundercats and I loved dinosaurs. We were not boys. I miss the 90s. I feel like the 90s as a young pre teen then teenager we could wear what we wanted and no one cared. A boy in my class used to come in wearing dresses no one cared. He paired it with eyeliner and big doc martens. Well, the teachers would care about dress code as it wasn't the uniform, but as it was 6th year it wasn't as strict. I used to come in wearing kappa trousers!

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 10/05/2024 09:56

midgetastic · 09/05/2024 23:42

Omg

Dh has long hair

I'll tell him he's trans

If that's a dig to me, my partner (male) has long hair. It's the calling him 'she' that stuck out for me. The long hair on Tate is no doubt a lazy stereotype because you know, all 13 year old girls have long hair 🙄.

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SerafinasGoose · 10/05/2024 10:00

KJK needs to watch it or she'll end up in the same place as Laurence Fox.

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Sarah2891 · 09/05/2024 17:10

Yes her son is trans. Calling her a child abuser is pretty ridiculous.

If they are a 13 year old child then no, they are not ‘trans’

goldenshred · 10/05/2024 10:41

I would love to say what I think on this subject but for some reason it's against talk guidelines, probably illegal, to say the truth about men who dress in women's clothes encouraging little boys to do this. Oh well this has got Emma loads of attention but it's not attention seeking. Wonder if she'll do a hello spread or TV series on how normal and lovely this is. Girl Power!

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newnamenellie · 10/05/2024 11:43

MercyDulb0ttle · 09/05/2024 17:48

KJK isn’t wrong but she’s not going to do the GC movement any good with her tactics.

I think she’s so right about everything BUT she seems to be getting a bit OTT. Her videos lately seem to consist of her posting clips of mostly American women (talking admittedly rubbish and gushing about their “trans child”) and then spending ages mimicking/mocking their accents.

I really hate to say it but she’s starting to come across slightly deranged.

Totally agree. This has been bothering me recently. I think KJK needs to be careful not to lose sight of the reality of the situation, she's coming at this all wrong I think. Shame.

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Datun · 10/05/2024 12:11

What I don't get is how she was fine with him being 'gender non-conforming', but now he needs to change sex to make it 'match'?

I bet this is coming from him, and the online pressure that Hilary Cass has correctly identified as a massive issue.

The sooner the people targeting children are exposed, the better.

Emma Bunton probably doesn't know the first thing about it and has probably never heard of Hilary Cass.

illinivich · 10/05/2024 12:47

It'll be coming from the boy.

I doubt his parents will be rushing him to the gender clinic. Although they've should look at the misogyny and possible homophobia they are exposing him to. Hes not a girl and shouldnt be expecting anyone to go along with his delusion.

I just hope the boy and parents are pressuring the school to prioritise his wants over any girls at the school.

OolongTeaDrinker · 10/05/2024 12:56

illinivich · 10/05/2024 12:47

It'll be coming from the boy.

I doubt his parents will be rushing him to the gender clinic. Although they've should look at the misogyny and possible homophobia they are exposing him to. Hes not a girl and shouldnt be expecting anyone to go along with his delusion.

I just hope the boy and parents are pressuring the school to prioritise his wants over any girls at the school.

If it's coming from the boy, even more reason not to announce it to the world.

Did you meant to say 'aren't pressuring'??

Fukuraptor · 10/05/2024 13:01

I think this stuff harms children. So I understand why KJK feels justified in calling it out. The language is shocking because we associate it with other kinds of harm that are caused by malice or neglect.

Maybe that shock will make some people see it differently. And I think KJK is a grown up, capable of choosing how she wants to express her arguments.

The problem with polarising language though is it is really easy to dismiss. GC women know that we aren't rights hoarding dinosaurs or transphobic bigots. Calling us those things may work somewhat to get other GC women to self censor incase they are misunderstood too, but it doesn't make us think "oh no, you're right, I was banging on about women's safety, dignity and privacy and the harms to children but you got me, none of that matters and I was actually just enjoying being mean to trans people."

Parents who love their children but who have come to understand their child's gender non conformity as a sign they are trans, and see their acceptance of that as an ultimate expression of their love and acceptance of them, aren't going to recognise the harm they are doing their child, or recognise CA as what they are doing.

So accusations like that seem so out of left field that they think you are crazy.

It's like left wing people calling right wing people greedy and selfish, when they may well be as or more generous as individuals but just disagree with government being the best way to help poor people improve their lives. (I am left wing, but I care a lot about understanding why folk think differently and have observed that Conservatives funnily enough don't think they are the bad guys and so criticism of them being evil/uncaring/greedy etc just doesn't stick meaningfully).

EasternStandard · 10/05/2024 13:04

David Bell is excellent on why we shouldn’t say ‘trans child’

There’s no such thing

Cass is excellent for other harms

KJK goes bolder on language but adults won’t prioritise dc in line with any of the above, including the sensible and rational

It’s sad to see

ILostMyself · 10/05/2024 13:21

Going along with the idea that your child was “born wrong” rather than getting them the help they need to accept themselves as perfect just the way they are is child abuse.

We all know now that most of these kids will grow up to be gay and also have other underlying co-morbidities. They need help, support and understanding but affirming that lie isn’t the kind thing to do.

Datun · 10/05/2024 13:38

Emma Buntin just needs to ask herself, and him, why?

Why do you think you're a girl? Drill down.

Because I like...
Because I feel...
Because I want...

Then recognise the sexism.

illinivich · 10/05/2024 13:45

Did you meant to say 'aren't pressuring'??

Yes!

I should read before i press send. Too late to edit now.

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