Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

[TeacherAnonymous123]

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

No. Over the past few years I've watched Brexit eat the Tories from the inside out (and I am not looking forward to the impact of real customs controls and plants and animals now they've finally started) and Labour slowly and painfully inch away from insane Wokeness. Both parties have suffered enormous blows to their credibility by letting ideologues take over and drive out the sensible middle ground. Labour seems to be tracking back to the centre , though more slowly than I'd like, while the Tories are spinning even further to the right. Women's rights is the one thing I think they've landed on that speaks to me.

I know I will have to keep plugging away at defending women's rights no matter who wins the election. In the meantime it's become clear the Tories are due a bit of time getting rid of their own ideologues - though after the Truss debacle I'm not confident they'll do it very quickly, if at all.

Is the idea of Penny TWAW Mordaunt being the next Tory leader putting anyone off?

According to electoral calculus the Tory candidate here will come 3rd; despite the current MP being Tory and been in since 2005. However, electoral calculus says the LibDem is most likely to win here; even though there has been either a Tory or Labour MP; never a LibDem.

I'm 99.9% likely to vote Labour (was an active member once) but still feel depressed by the current Labour stance being still, at best, slightly iffy on gender issues. I'm really desperate for LibDems to not win. I've never liked them anyway; but they are so egregious on this issue.

But the Tories are appalling and I'll never vote for them. They've barely done anything to stem the tide of this issue considering they want to use it as a wedge issue.

I wish Labour had not gone down this route.

So, you are happy with the way the Tory government uphold women's rights and represent you as a woman?

Even though:

• They voted against Stella Creasey’s amendment to make misogyny a hate crime
• They have not forced the police to prioritise violent crimes such as rape and domestic abuse, despite pledges from the Home Secretary
• They rejected the Women and Equalities Committee’s recommendation to make menopause a protected characteristic
• The average wait for a rape case to go to court is three years
• The extortionate price of early-years education is pushing parents (mostly women) out of the labour market

The Tories will argue that their position on gender self-ID shows they are willing to stand up for women’s rights.

But until they begin to address issues in the workforce and issues of violence against women and girls, there is little to suggest that their sudden commitment to protecting women is anything other than opportunistic.

Yes.

And looking "long and hard" at Wales and Scotland don't make me vote Tory. The Tories still manage to come out bottom for me. Amazing isn't it when you look at the SNP!

No.

I'm voting LibDem as the anti-Tory tactical choice in my constituency.

The biggest issue I see right now is crime.
Phones snatched off pedestrians, motorbikes racing on main roads, drug consuming and dealing in public, people going round houses at night to check if the cars been locked/ what could be nicked, groups of youngsters walking into shops and stealing with no one able to say or do anything...

It's become so ridiculous. We pay very high taxes in this country. The least we can get is some police out and about, actually doing their job.

I've said I'll be spoiling my vote - again. I will only vote if i can vote for someone with confidence. Given Labour's history over the last six or seven years - they have a lot of apologising to do before i can trust them again. You don't treat people like shit - and then expect them to vote for you.

Stella Creasy would have included men in the definition of women.

I also don't agree with making menopause a protected characteristic. 'Sex' is enough - but it needs clear definition. Theer are some people who want to separate out all of women's physical characteristics and give them protection - so that they can include men in the definition of women.

Yes. It's the basis of our Society. We can change economic policies but writing women out of law will be irreversible.

No I'm not voting on 'the transgender issue' because I don't recognise a 'transgender issue' as existing. It's a men's rights issue. This is exactly the same shit as in the Dworkin/Ginsberg era, is as old as the hills, and I'll be voting for women's rights, children's safeguarding, and economic security for women.

Hopefully an Independent or Morning Star-aligned candidate will emerge in my constituency but I'm not holding my breath.

And yes to pp, I think Penny TWAW Mordaunt will be a disaster for the Tories, and frankly they deserve her. She's like a pastiche of Gillian Anderson impersonating Margaret Thatcher with half the brain cells. Labour under Starmer are lost to me, ditto Lib Dems under Davey and the Greens under the current shitshow. Even Daisy Cooper (LD), of whom I had high hopes, lost the plot.

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@RebelliousCow Well I do agree with this - "You don't treat people like shit - and then expect them to vote for you" - which is exactly why I can't understand anyone who would let the Tories retain power after what they have done to our public services.

If you spoil your vote, I hope you and your family do not need the NHS, the legal system, schools, police or any other public services in the coming years.

Yes. I keep thinking Labour will come to their senses in time and unveil a back to reality approach to sex and gender, even as recently as watching the turns in the wake of the Cass review, but then here comes Starmer with his whole mealy-mouthed bullshit that ignores their role and intolerance of those in the party who were deemed modern day blasphemers that demonstrates the rubber band instinct back to gender woo. You can keep your faith based narratives in politics that swamp reality, truth and freedom to speak clearly and the cascade of shit that falls on women and girls so you can remain a true believer - you can even pretend all that is a single issue. But it's not for me.

Amazing isn’t the word I’d use when the Tories perform better than Labour and SNP, despite those parties having had years to show how well their policies function and how they uphold the rights of women and girls.

Because a vote has to have positive meaning, and I have to have integrity. I cannot vote for my local MP. Not only has she refused to meet with women in her constituency on the issue, but she is one of the biggest TRA activists in the party. You cannot vote for someone with whom you have a fundamental issue. Well, I can't anyway.

I'm a floating voter, tend to vote on a combination of overall party policies and strength of local candidates but feel more politically homeless this time than ever before. I won't vote Tory because they're responsible for the mess the country is in overall and have been far too slow on the trans issue but can't vote Labour or Lib Dem because I genuinely believe they will damage women's rights and fail to protect children, talk about a rock and a hard place! All the issues I've mentioned are of equal importance to me so I don't feel I have any viable options, let alone good ones. I would happily vote Labour this time were it not for the women's rights/harm to children issue though so yes, I suppose it is the deciding factor for me.

Are you trying to shame me? I'm an ex teacher, my daughter is currently a teacher, and yes I use the NHS and other public services.

You have some seriously high hopes for what a Labour government will achieve. I live in a Labour city, anyway - and my vote will make no difference to the outcome in my constitunecy.

yes

Yes. It’s not ‘the transgender issue’ to me, it’s women’s rights and recognition as full human beings. I am absolutely fuming about the way this has played out! Putting men in women’s prisons; letting men compete against women in sport; and, most of all, the nasty insidious misogyny and dismissal of women’s legitimate concerns as ‘transphobia’.

It’s shown how far we still have to go and how quickly some men will dismiss us as ‘dinosaurs’ and ‘silly women on Mumsnet’.

You look at the bigger picture of the country and what is best for it.

If you believe in the Tories and what they have done and care that much about their GC agenda, then vote for them.

If you care about public services at all, then vote for Labour.

If you simply stay quiet/ spoil your vote then frankly you don't get to have an opinion on the way things pan out over the next decade, because you didn't make an effort to stop it.

Yes.

I have 2 dds, and can not live with myself if I didn’t vote to keep them safe, to give them a chance of equality, to ensure their rights stay in tact.

I can't get past the whole Rwanda thing, that alone would stop me voting Tory. However, they have also destroyed women's rights in the 14 years they've been in power. They were the ones who had the ultimate say in men being allowed in women's prisons, for example, and they chose to allow it.

Yes as in Scotland as a woman I am now a hateful person as I support womens and children’s rights

also I am probably racist and transphobic according to our dear departed leader

Yes. I could never vote for Starmer - a lawyer who doesn't know what a woman is. In fact I don't think I'll ever be able to bring myself to vote for Labour again - I see through leftist misogyny since all this gender BS has come to light.