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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

958 replies

TeacherAnonymous123 · 30/04/2024 12:54

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

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Dandel10n · 30/04/2024 13:01

No. The Labour Party have hugely pissed me off on this issue, but overall I feel that the Conservatives are just so bad for the country and I disagree with them on so many other things that my priority is to vote against them.

BonfireLady · 30/04/2024 13:02

Yes. I had originally planned to spoil my ballot but will now be voting Tory, for the first time ever in my life.

I've never been a single issue voter and never believed that I would be. However, I'm so appalled at the way that a medical and safeguarding scandal of this magnitude has been allowed to happen (on both the Tory and Labour watch) that I will be voting for the only party that is now taking active steps to address it. These active steps include direct interventions (e.g Victoria Atkins with the NHS, the draft guidance for Gender Questioning Children, Kemi Badenoch steering the equalities ship) as well as a change in rhetoric from the top down to recognise the importance of sex over and above a belief in gender identity. There are party members across the House who still actively prioritise this belief over biological sex but the Tories are showing more movement in the right direction.
Wes Streeting's apology is important but it doesn't hold any water if he continues to talk about "trans children" and there is no clear leadership from the top.

MultiPolarista · 30/04/2024 13:02

Yep.
There is nothing between the parties economically or socially except this issue and as I am in the 51% of people who will have their rights stripped, yes, yes I am def voting Tory on this issue.

Which is novel for a hard core leftist, but hay ho.

Aussieland · 30/04/2024 13:03

No wonder the country is going to shit

Lovelyview · 30/04/2024 13:05

Yes. I'm waiting for the labour party manifesto but I'm not hopeful I'll be able to vote for them. Probably spoiling my ballot paper.

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 30/04/2024 13:05

I have given up on the Tories. They could have sorted this out over the last decade. More urgently they should be sorting out right now but they're not and they're using us. I refuse to be used.

No way are they getting my vote.
Labour have been shite on this. Are slowly getting better but too late.
I've never been a single issue voter but if it was just on this. I would absolutely spoil my vote.

Mercurial123 · 30/04/2024 13:05

Not a chance. Another four years of the Conservatives will just drag the UK down even further.

Comefromaway · 30/04/2024 13:05

NO, whilst it is important to me other issues are much more important (like education, healthcare and the economy)

SirChenjins · 30/04/2024 13:06

Yes - because our Scottish Govt have focussed on this issue far more than any other and I'm absolutely sick of it.

lifeinthelastlane · 30/04/2024 13:06

Yes I will.

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 30/04/2024 13:07

No because as a single Mum who needs benefits for various reasons I cannot vote Tory.

IDontHateRainbows · 30/04/2024 13:09

No
No point being recognized as a woman if you are dead from lack of decent healthcare

ARichtGoodDram · 30/04/2024 13:10

No. I have two disabled children. One won’t live to adulthood, but one has. The decimation of health and support services, and the constant attacks on the welfare state mean I wouldn’t vote Tory no matter their stance on this

I also don’t believe they’d do anything more useful than any other party on that issue anyway. They’re simply jumping on it last minute in the desperate hope people will forget everything else they’ve done and focus on that. The are not the friend of women, they’ve shown that repeatedly over their tenure. That hasn’t changed.

ScrapeMyArse · 30/04/2024 13:11

Torn between vote spoiling in the hope of sending a message about needing a proper socialist party; voting labour in the hope they're seeing sense; and voting labour in order to prevent lib dem / labour coalition which IMO is a worse prospect for women's rights.

And it's women's rights I'm interested in, not transgender issues. No party should be promoting one faith based belief over another.

Women's rights which intersect with a fuck tonne of key issues including the energy crisis, climate change, NHS, children's rights, childcare, prison reform, crime, employment discrimination, mental health, SEN, refugees etc. All very well to do as we are socialised to do and put our concerns last, but we've tried taking our rights for granted and they've been revoked on the say so of powerful men.

stealthninjamum · 30/04/2024 13:11

For the first time ever I deliberately didnt vote in the last elections because I just couldn’t vote Lib Dem. I jcan’t vote Labour until Keir Starmer unequivocally states what a woman is. I have autistic daughters, many of their friends are trans and most likely neurodivergent too. It makes me sick that the Tories have let these children down through lack of mental health support - but at least they won’t be giving them puberty blockers now. Honestly if you care about vulnerable children I don’t believe there is a party that will help them.

BovrilMartini · 30/04/2024 13:11

I’m unsure in the general election but I will be in the local Police and Crime Commissioner election.

I wrote to all 4 candidates asking about Gender identity. Lib Dem and Labour didn’t reply. Plaid sent loads of chat but didn’t answer the questions. The Conservative said it has no place in policing and he will ensure that sex is accurately recorded. So he’s getting my vote

Which considering I used to be a member of the Labour Party I’m a bit sad about

lifeinthelastlane · 30/04/2024 13:12

I want parties to put all this ridiculous vagueness to bed, make it clear that the equality act will be enforced and that women are able to access genuinely female spaces when needed.
Soon as they get that cleared up I can go on to look at their other policies.

Quiestvous · 30/04/2024 13:12

No way. Environment, NHS, social care are so much more important.

Cazpar · 30/04/2024 13:14

Comefromaway · 30/04/2024 13:05

NO, whilst it is important to me other issues are much more important (like education, healthcare and the economy)

Same.

It's important, but my priorities are properly funding the NHS and our education system, security of housing, environmental policies, our agricultural industry, the cost of living and wider economy etc.

Peonies12 · 30/04/2024 13:16

Of course not. Imagine voting based on politically rhetoric around another minority and marginalised group. There are so many issues that effect the majority of people.

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2024 13:16

Yes.

If someone can lie about whether humans can change sex or not, they are either an idiot, a coward, or both. I can't vote for someone who is unable to be clear on the issue, or willing to allow children to be harmed because they haven't the guts to be clear and speak up.

lifeinthelastlane · 30/04/2024 13:16

Thing is, any party who will not unequivocally define women as adult human females is going to waste both time and money on making changes to existing legislation that allow for self id. And this takes them away from time and money spent on those important issues such as welfare the nhs and the environment.

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2024 13:17

MultiPolarista · 30/04/2024 13:02

Yep.
There is nothing between the parties economically or socially except this issue and as I am in the 51% of people who will have their rights stripped, yes, yes I am def voting Tory on this issue.

Which is novel for a hard core leftist, but hay ho.

There is nothing between the parties economically or socially except this issue

Very good point.

TheValueOfEverything · 30/04/2024 13:17

No. It’s important but top issues for me including public access to quality education, rebuilding the NHS, public transport, foreign policy, and above all the environment.

This issue will not be resolved in one election, it will take years to unpick and settle and socialise. I do intend to continue to be an active voice for women’s sex based rights and would bring it up with any political candidate who rings my doorbell along with those other issues but it’s not the first thing I’d raise.

Mariannas · 30/04/2024 13:18

I think we need to bear in mind that this shit show happened under a Tory government