Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

[TeacherAnonymous123]

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

@Medschoolmum it’s simply the most important issue to me.

I'm only voting on one issue, womens Rights. If a politician can't speak the truth about sex, then they are a liar or a coward or been paid off.
So I'm voting Tory, I've spoken to my prospective conservative councillors and PCC and they both know that a woman is an adult human female and support single sex provision.
plus they attend local events and listen to the locals.
im voting Tory .

Yes, and I want them to know it.

This echoes my sentiments.

Were it not for this issue, I would vote Lib Dems as normal (as I still prefer their policies over all). However, it's my own Tory MP that I'm voting for now, as well as the wider party, as per my comment above. I've found it a very strange experience to have a respect for an individual in public office whose overall politics don't align with my own.

Good idea, best way to influence

How do you explain Labour in Wales? 25 unbroken years in government to improve things, but hospitals and education (both devolved to the Welsh government) going down the pan, industry disappearing, third and fourth generations in some areas who have never worked. And yet because of the tribal nature of Welsh politics most Labour voters will go on voting Labour.

I'm a member of the Labour Party and living in Wales but I'm appalled at the quality of Welsh Senedd politicians and the petty-minded small-nation style of thinking and debate. Every time things get worse they blame Westminster — and because they can blame Westminster, they don't have to take responsibility for their own failure.

Some good points.

Who has given us these issues? (obv not the war in Ukraine, Tory support for Ukraine has been one of the few good things the Govt has done)

The Tories have presided over them including messing up relations with the EU.

Polling shows Labour don't need the scottish vote, though to be representative, it would be better to have more Scottish Labour.

I live in one such City; and what I see is that many are actually turning to parties such. as 'Reform UK' or else to Socialist parties much more 'purist' than Labour. They see Labour as having sold out completely.

What I also noticed during lockdown was that a big contingency of what would normally have been working class Labour voters were being politicised by their opposition to lockdown and compulsory vaccinations etc. I still see these groups every week campaigning in my local park. They also want nothing to do with gender ideology. Some are removing their children from mainstream schooling too.

Also because we live in a Labour city there are few illusions left about the competency of the local Labour run council. It has been so bad that the government has had to come in and operate over-sight for the last three years.

So, everything is not as black and white as straightforward as is often made out. Demographics and patterns are shifting in unpredicatble ways - motivated by different types of issue.

A member of Welsh Labour but slagging them off?

Health maybe devolved but funding isn't, Wales like any part of the UK is very much affected by decisions made in Westminster.

e.g the numbers of teachers and medics able to train, migration, borders, central govt funding of councils, overall taxation, they only get a certain amount and from what i ve read (and my sister who lives there) the NHS is equal to the mess that is in England.

Wales isn't a separate country & the welsh electorate are obviously happy or are you saying they are a bunch of idiots?

The situation in the EU is not all rosy by any stretch of the imagination. Germany is actually in its own crisis - having been the bellwether for social stability for a long time. What seems to be happening is that each individual nation state is retreating much more into its own internal issues and the characteristics which define each country are coming more to the fore.

Immigration and asylum is a major issue right across Europe, as is the cost of living. Germany has issues with a series of unstable coalitions which have come about because of PR -and Angela Merkel tied her country to closely to dependence on Russia for oil and gas. Farmers are in revolt in many countries over issues around climate targets and so on.

The Tories wrecked the economy of the whole UK including the devolved nations.

It's got to be Tory hasn't it.

Starmer conned the Labour membership with his 6 pledges to get the leadership, which he immediately reversed when he became leader and basically did the opposite.

He's capable of anything.

No.

I care about what the Tories are doing to the poor, sick, old, vulnerable and disabled. No one, least of all the disabled, should be given vouchers instead of money. I care that none of us will be able to be seen in a hospital very soon. There’s no point having rights for children when so many of them are living oon poverty and we won’t have enough teachers to give them an education. And don’t get me started on the Rwanda bill.

The Tories got us into this mess and now have their backs against the wall. They don’t care about women, they’re just trying to win votes.

I'm finding it difficult to decide. I think I will look at the candidates available in my area and their voting records if applicable.

I think gender ideology is a much bigger issue than people think it is. I think as well as it being damaging to women's rights, it is also anti-scientific and promotes belief/lived experience as being of equal worth to scientific proof. I think this is very worrying - I do not want to live in a country where belief is supreme.

In addition to this I think it shows the rising power of corporates (in this case pharmaceuticals/cosmetic surgery industry) to lobby weak political parties to make themselves money.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Well said

Why not just discuss the reasons to vote for a particular party in a reasonable way rather than haranguing posters in such an aggressive and critical manner?

If you vote for him then you give him your approval and validate what he’s doing, I don’t think that your strongly worded memo will do anything at all if you would still give him your vote, because that’s all he cares about. It’s the same with Labour, the Lib Dem’s and the Greens here, all they care about is your vote and if you give it to them, even though you hate what their doing then it actually tells them that you will still vote for them no matter what they do. What you tolerate is what you will get, simple as, they will have no incentive to change, why would they?

Because it seems that engineering shame as a mechanism to frogmarch women into conformity is incredibly satisfying to some particular posters.

Sorry but what has that got anything to do with the UK's relations with the EU?

Equivalence on qualifications/crime/trade/education all have been very badly handled by the Tories.

On the EU specifically, whilst they ve certainly got their own problems, they are dwarfed by the ones here in the UK, most of europe, esp Germany, start far ahead of the UK.

e.g Healthcare and in particular cancer rates and dental care, the UK has some of the most expensive and inaccessible healthcare anywhere in Europe.
I am, at this very moment, looking at going abroad for affordable dental treatment, many countries in EU have highly regulated and skilled private dental care, offering treatment at around half that in the UK.

The scold by on FWR

The Labour Party in Scotland have just voted down a motion by Labour Women to protect sex based rights. This is the first time Labour have voted down a motion like this, tells me everything I need to know about this shower of feckin gobshites 🤬

Oh and your argument doesn’t pass the reality test. The Tories in England commissioned the Cass report, have withdrawn puberty blockers, have insisted on single sex provision in health care and prisons, outlawed women being erased in official communications and guidelines and have insisted that the police stop recording non crime hate incidents. Better late than never I say.

This was meant for @Vaccances

Not to mention the intervention at the 11th hour to stop the Scottish govt bringing in self id.