Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

[TeacherAnonymous123]

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

I'm still agog that posters consider women's rights, material reality, free speech, the vilification of heretical MPs, the disregard of healthcare principles and the consequential harming of children, the decimation of sports, the gender blundering in the prison service, the mangling of language generally but particularly in our institutions and thrust upon a generation of kids in their schooling a single issue?

Regardless of how you land when in comes to a general election.

I think i will be voting based on the talk about withdrawing from the ECHR.

My vote will be based on my desire to safeguard women and girls (and boys) basic rights, yes.

This is an issue of fundamental human rights and of my expectation to live in a society which recognises and upholds the basic human rights of women and girls, and which upholds safeguarding for children.

So I don't regard it as a ' single issue' but a fundamental human rights issue..

Oh dear. It’s not a single issue. Women’s and children’s rights are affected in many ways. Frankly I am ‘agog’ that others can’t or won’t see it.

Another poster put it quite well. Sorry PP I can’t find your name but if it’s you thank you!

Yes

You have the tone of someone disagreeing with me while having the same opinion, I'm not sure what to say 😁

You’re right. Sorry my mistake! I’m getting frazzled with the denials of women’s and children’s rights.

That's alright. It's hard going.

I'm still agog that posters consider women's rights, material reality, free speech, the vilification of heretical MPs, the disregard of healthcare principles and the consequential harming of children, the decimation of sports, the gender blundering in the prison service, the mangling of language generally but particularly in our institutions and thrust upon a generation of kids in their schooling a single issue?

withdrawing from the ECHR

This is an issue of fundamental human rights and of my expectation to live in a society which recognises and upholds the basic human rights of women and girls, and which upholds safeguarding for children.

So I don't regard it as a ' single issue' but a fundamental human rights issue

While I'm tempted to add 'aqueducts, sanitation and education' (and why not?) and 'world peace, Stan', I think the comments above from pp encapsulate the importance of NOT framing the human rights of women and children as a 'single issue'.

All that Keir Starmer has to do is say sex is immutable and it matters. Job done. Why can't he? It's basic analytical class principle. It's common fucking sense.

Keir, mate, my vote is yours to lose. Just SAY IT. 'Sex is immutable and it matters'.

All that Keir Starmer has to do is say sex is immutable and it matters. Job done. Why can't he?

Because he has entered into a bargain with the extremists in the party I would imagine. “I will keep the door open to enable self-ID by not saying sex is immutable, if you pretend that you care about child safeguarding, women’s rights and free speech long enough to get labour elected”.

No. I'll be voting tactically to get rid of the Tories. Another 4 years of this clusterfuck drag the country down even further, if that's even possible.

It's not the transgender issue it is about recognising women and children. Anyway not sure if I can bring myself to vote labour

And I will look at all issues

The Tories are "standing" for nothing on this. Zero.

Words. That's all you have.

Meanwhile their actual record of action has done sweet FA for women for the past 14 years.

Nothing for women. Nothing for children.

In fact far more children are in poverty since they took power.

And an off the charts growth in food banks.

Yes I am. It's vitally important and overshadows everything else for me. I live in a safe Tory seat so they would get in here anyway so it's about making a statement for me.

If You genuinely care for women and children you can't possibly vote for the Tory party. They have damaged the lives of children for the last 14 years and a few words to win votes mean absolutely nothing .

Who can we vote for then?

Which party cares about women and children?

So why won't Keir Starmer admit reality and say the words 'sex is immutable and it matters', and get all those extra votes and a stonking majority and the latitude to carry out reforms for the good of the ALL the country?

Six words.

It's about trust. And not feeling like a down-trodden helpmeet class.

Maybe that's what we need. The SIX WORDS CAMPAIGN.

'Sex is immutable and it matters'. Can you say it?

I'm not voting purely on "the transgender issue"; I do have other priorities. However, women's rights are a line in the sand for me, and I will not vote for a candidate or a party that tells me men can be women.

@Pieceofpurplesky nails it for me:

Whilst the trans issue is an issue - the issue of women trying to survive day to day is much more important to me.

"Trying to survive" sums up life for so many women under the Tories. I've historically voted Tory (once!), Labour, and Green, but I'll be warily voting Labour in this GE.

A lot of people in Wales would vote for a traffic cone if it was wearing a red rosette.

Yes, it is the most important issue for me, and I will vote for whichever major party gives a satisfactory answer or spoil my ballot.

I cannot believe some people are taking this blurring of the edges of an oppressed class so lightly.

I'm not taking it lightly, but after 14 years of austerity, and the country on its knees in every respect under this shambolic corrupt govt, I have other more pressing priorities.