Male friend on FB (a doctor no less), telling me that trans women are real women.

[Blondiebeachbabe]

I shared a meme on FB, about not supporting trans women in female sports.

A male friend of mine, who is a GP, commented that trans women are real women 🙄 I replied that trans women are men, and that my gripe was men in women’s sports, and men (rapists like Karen White), being housed in female prisons.

He then said that he knew lots of trans men, who just wanted to live a peaceful life, and I’m thinking well yes, because they are actually biologically female!

He then went on to quote all manner of statistics about violence from men against trans women and how trans women are at more risk of violence than cis women (I hate that term). and how cis women are more likely to be attacked by cis men than trans women.

It’s been annoying me all day. Here is another male telling me what to think, but also, whether the violence comes from normal men against trans women (who are men), or trans women against real women, this is essentially a male violence problem.

Because, we as women, aren’t the perpetrators in any of this. So men, stay in your own lane and sort out all your shit. You don’t get to throw the men you don’t like into our lane (bathrooms and prisons), and make us your collateral damage.

If a fox said that it felt like it was a chicken, you wouldn’t let it sleep in the chicken coup, just in case it was lying.

I may not have articulated this in the best way!

A prerequisite for being a transwoman is that you have to be a man. HTH.

If that's really the case then you are really crap at analysing risk.

You are all trying to disguise your hate for trans people as a women's safety issue.

I have long believed that some ploppers people on here think we're making our safety concerns up. And finally here we have it, blatantly said.

Because transwomen aren't all sexual predators.

Who said "transwomen are all sexual predators"??

To be honest, the general level of ploppers has diminished considerably since the usual suspects melted into the background after the Cass Report was published. Margey et al were obnoxious but at least tried.

it's not about clothing.

Transwomen have no penis- you do realise, whatever they wear.

Yes it is tedious to listen to all the transphobia on here.

Transwomen have no penis- you do realise, whatever they wear.

You are wrong.
And you have totally misunderstood @Blondiebeachbabe 's post.

Would you like to go and tell that to the 95% or so who retain the penis?

Or are you confusing female-born transmen with male-born transwomen? Many people do.

Oh dear. Imagine thinking you know a lot about trans people and then coming out with this.

‘Transwomen have no penis’ is transphobic. Do better.

fuck me im so bored of this horseshit

95% of trans women retain their penis because you know what being castrated & having your penis inverted to create a hole that has to be permanently dilated is an incredibly serious, difficult & painful surgery

I don’t in anyway blame TW for retaining their penis, I do blame people who expect me to affirm that a TW is a woman because they’re not, they remain what they always were & always will be - a man

I've resorted to a scathing, "You're a fucking doctor, you should be well aware that humans can't change sex," before now on another doctor who was coming over all Be Kind and It's More Complicated Than We Might Think. (As well as, "I'm a fucking doctor by trade, if humans could change sex I'd have learned all about it at medical school or in my postgraduate training.") I'm harking back almost with affection to the days when colleagues who forgot the basics of their training merely believed in crystal healing and homoeopathy.

You’ve got to be shitting me. Of all the places to come and post that level of bullshit, you decide to do it on FWR?!

From what I recall, it’s somewhere in the region of 5% (very roughly) of trans-identifying men that actually go on to have ‘bottom’ surgery. The vast, VAST, majority of transwomen don’t interfere with their primary genitalia.

And, according to Stonewall, YOU are being deeply transphobic (ironic, isn’t it?!) for suggesting that only those who do have full surgery can describe themselves as Transwomen.

Oh, and you don’t need to go through bottom surgery to get a Gender Recognition Certificate and be able to change your sex marker on legal documents.

But what is it to you?

Fact is, transwomen, eg those who have undergone full transition- are certainly at massive risk if they are forced to use male only toilets. FACT.

I was subject to sexual assault by a transwoman in the ladies toilet as a teenager. That's what it is to me. I don't actually care if that man is put at risk, tbh. But I appreciate that's not very kind.

Also, when shouting FACT, please do supply evidence to back up your assertion.

Fact is, transwomen, eg those who have undergone full transition- are certainly at massive risk if they are forced to use male only toilets. FACT.

However many times you write FACT, this is actually a myth.
Believe it or not, most men in the blokes' bogs just want to pee and leave

Aww bless, is that what you really think? You’ve been had.

You just can't get the ploppers, these days.

Women are at risk if you give all men a loophole to self ID into women only spaces, fact.

Well if it’s a FACT! I’m sure you can evidence it can’t you

ill wait

What are you talking about @Italianita - men do follow women into these spaces and assault them.