Male friend on FB (a doctor no less), telling me that trans women are real women.

[Blondiebeachbabe]

I shared a meme on FB, about not supporting trans women in female sports.

A male friend of mine, who is a GP, commented that trans women are real women 🙄 I replied that trans women are men, and that my gripe was men in women’s sports, and men (rapists like Karen White), being housed in female prisons.

He then said that he knew lots of trans men, who just wanted to live a peaceful life, and I’m thinking well yes, because they are actually biologically female!

He then went on to quote all manner of statistics about violence from men against trans women and how trans women are at more risk of violence than cis women (I hate that term). and how cis women are more likely to be attacked by cis men than trans women.

It’s been annoying me all day. Here is another male telling me what to think, but also, whether the violence comes from normal men against trans women (who are men), or trans women against real women, this is essentially a male violence problem.

Because, we as women, aren’t the perpetrators in any of this. So men, stay in your own lane and sort out all your shit. You don’t get to throw the men you don’t like into our lane (bathrooms and prisons), and make us your collateral damage.

If a fox said that it felt like it was a chicken, you wouldn’t let it sleep in the chicken coup, just in case it was lying.

I may not have articulated this in the best way!

This is supposed to say tiny tiny minority, not majority! Won’t let me edit for some reason

You missed the sarcasm there.

Ok. So you support female single sex spaces remaining single sex? That way there are no increases that come from allowing any male people into those spaces. All male people above about 8 years old, regardless of gender identity, to stay out so that female people don’t have to be exposed to even a tiny increase in risk of harm? Is that what you support?

Sorry - was confused by the spat over the typo - my bad.

Lots of people to reply to, so I will do it here. Will look for stats if I get a chance while I am working.
Saying a lot of male to female trans people are dangerous is no different to a few decades ago when people said most gay men were a danger to male children.
Don’t want people to think I am some sort of trans rights activist. My opinions do not align with what LGBTQI etc groups such as stonewall think. I think mermaids is a dangerous group. I have a lot of sympathy with what JKR and others say about single sex spaces.
However, I do know that most trans people (male and female, and in the under 18 group apparently female to male is now the biggest percentage which I was surprised about) just want to live in peace. It is terms like ‘a man in a frock’ that I think are unkind. It isn’t like trans people just wake up one day and think ‘I might become a woman / man now’. Whatever I or others think about them, the mental pain of feeling like they are in the wrong body is real. That’s why the suicide rates are higher than in other groups.
So whatever I think personally, I will still be kind towards the trans people who just want to live happy and in peace.

Can we also see the receipts for the suicide stats.

Maybe you could ask him how he responds to a trans woman coming to his practice saying they’re pregnant? Or that they’re having period troubles? What does he examine?

What do you think the word (sic) means?

That is great then, sounds like we are on the same page. I think women only spaces are important. It’s the people calling them ‘men in frocks’ and other stuff that imo isn’t kind.

I know what it means. I was clearing up the typo for people who weren’t clear that I had made a typo

Why are male born people who believe they think/feel like women more deserving of kindness than women who have been raped? Or women who have been victims of male violence? Or women with religious or cultural beliefs? Or preteen girls negotiating their first period? Or women who have dedicated their lives to training in their sport. Why don't women deserve kindness?

Omg would they really put her in a cell with another woman???

Surely the prison (wherever that is) wouldn't put her in a cell with another female inmate.

I thought she had gone to a male prison?? I'm so out of the loop to be honest I don't really watch the news.

Here is one I found quickly. This is all LGBT etc though, not just trans

Of course trans people don’t deserve more kindness. They all deserve it

I have a lot of sympathy with people who want to ban them. I’m not sure a blanket ban is the best way, but some spaces definitely yes

So how does your belief that single sex spaces etc ARE important and that children shouldn't be sterilised or medicated (if you are against Mermaids), align with "be kind"?
You can't "be kind" according to this ideology unless you 100% capitulate to the demands that TWAW and should be treated as such at every turn.

Those beliefs would see you labelled a terf of the highest order.

And what is a man who identifies with a trans identity, when he wears a dress, if not a man in a dress? How is he not a man?

Does biology stop when someone says they are trans?
Male is a biological descriptor. Sorry if you don't like that, but hey ho.

'Gender' a set of behaviours, roles and presentations imposed by society. Stereotypes, in other words.

And we don't separate women's spaces on the basis of gender stereotypes. We separate them on the basis of sex.

Job done.

So no receipts then.