The Grauniad on a damaging “reality” show

[RapidOnsetGenderCritic]

Another slanted take from The Guardian on a trans story. It seems to me that the main take from this sad tale should be that lying, or concealing the truth, has consequences. But the article doesn’t really mention that angle.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/25/she-was-tough-but-it-broke-her-why-theres-something-about-miriam-was-reality-tvs-most-shameful-low

Butterfly, you continue to ignore the inconvenient fact that while you feel that transitioning young was the right decision for you, it's absolutely the wrong thing for almost every child with gender dysphoria. If allowed to go through natural puberty, almost all children will find that those feelings go away completely.

The drugs stop the brain developing fully, puberty is essential for that. Giving children drugs which cause many long term health issues when they don't need them, just because you personally found it good is unethical. It's far more important to properly support them to accept that puberty happens to everyone and to treat the other mental health issues that they almost always have.

Gender dysphoria is most likely a symptom of something else in their life and not a permanent characteristic such as eye colour. When someone breaks their collarbone, they usually hold their elbow. If doctors treated everything the same as they do gender, the elbow would be classed as the broken bone and men having heart attacks would have their arm looked at, not the heart.

Sanctimony doesn't lend a weak argument any more weight.

Another thread becomes The Butters Drama Hour.

PSA: feminist board on a site called 'Mumsnet' centres women. Shocking, I know.

This board, this site, and these women are not a resource to support or indulge males.

Posters do this to themselves by going off half cooked, reading ill intent into everything and accusing others of being "disingenuous" for posting their opinion.

Says AdamRyan 😂

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the irony

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Yes to this.

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Do you really, honestly think advising someone who has lost a family member to transition to get therapy, is an outrageous thing to do?

Because from where I'm sitting it seems like common sense advice and the reason it's triggered certain posters is because it came from someone trans, rather than what they said.

What I find deeply ironic is this forums insistence it isn't an echo chamber, vs how posters who deviate from the group think are demonstrably treated.

I don't think it's group think to point out that despite all the drugs and surgery and feelz and beliefs, it doesn't take Aston Uni's forensic linguistics tool to notice when posters have been brought up with male socialisation and male privilege.

The poster who you are so desperately trying to defend spends many posts giving endless presentations of their own experiences as reasons for children to be gaslit into abandoning their future fertility, physical and mental health.
You may describe women and parents prioritising safeguarding children as "group think" - women on here see it as a basic responsibility in any democratic society.

It's depressing that so many individuals, especially men, seem to find safeguarding children a challenge to understand and prioritise.

There are a fair few women who post pro women posts

Great I love to see it. More than that I’m noticing rl change in the shift to politics and policy

More power to the clear and reasoned posts on FWR, which I have no doubt have played a part. Keep going.

I'm not a man and I'm not "desperately trying to defend that poster". I'm pointing out the pile on to them is disproportionate to what was actually said.

You may describe women and parents prioritising safeguarding children as "group think" - women on here see it as a basic responsibility in any democratic society. This has no relation to the topic or discussion on this thread and is just you beating your usual "child safeguarding means ban all trans people" drum.

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I have a sneaking suspicion you are about to get a very big shock.
Most people aren't paying enough attention to this issue to have a strong view. Of the people that are, not everyone thinks like you.

Will be interesting to see how the PoW candidates do on Thursday.

Still conversing I see. Why? you have no stamina for not conversing.

What’s the shock going to be exactly, Starmer and the gender borg incoming?

Labour are woeful, and up to their eyes in gender lies but we’ll see

I can see the shift and how annoyed various people get, including you. All good imo. Love the pro women posters that find the pro men arguments irrelevant

Responding to women's concerns about the wholesale dismantling of women's rights and pushing of unevidenced medical treatments onto vulnerable children with 'for god's sake, seek help' is clear gaslighting.

Women are very, very familiar with this tactic. We've been dismissed as 'hysterical' for centuries.

The problem is not our emotional response. The problem is the injustice.

It's not us that's mad.

Scottish politics has been fun to watch too

And the ending of puberty blockers, the Cass Review, all the backlash from the angry

All good, the flimsy house of cards that it is

Men can access the much needed support services. That’s a great idea

The one place on the whole of the internet where GC women can speak (almost) freely without getting booted off can hardly be described as an echo chamber. It’s more of a supportive refuge from the insanity of what is going on both in the real world and online. We are all subject to other insane views in every other aspect of our lives. And in fact if this were an echo chamber you probably wouldn’t be on here periodically calling women right wing and chiding them for considering not voting Labour for the first time in their lives.

If most people dont pay attention to what is going on, the council funded trans awareness initiatives are a spectacular waste of money. All those flags, and no one sees them.

@AdamRyan
I'm not a man
Why are you using a male coded Username if you aren't a man?