The Grauniad on a damaging “reality” show

[RapidOnsetGenderCritic]

Another slanted take from The Guardian on a trans story. It seems to me that the main take from this sad tale should be that lying, or concealing the truth, has consequences. But the article doesn’t really mention that angle.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/apr/25/she-was-tough-but-it-broke-her-why-theres-something-about-miriam-was-reality-tvs-most-shameful-low

As, someone on this thread pointing out huge holes in a post was spat at as being ‘bitchy’, I think that carefully presented veneer comes off every so often.

For those so enamoured of such religiosity as gendered souls, ‘The truth shall set you free’ might be a more suitable principle to live by.

I like to think we live and learn. Truth is always better than a pile of lies, but I know some people don’t care about the truth. That is before reflection on the greater abuse of the majority of the population this ideology brings with it. Abuse and malignant consequences for women and children so easily batted aside. No matter how many people pretend, and promulgate the notion, how so much more vulnerable and sensitive the truly marginalised men are. (Not vis a vis women and children, they’re not). Even in that so, so, so allegedly vulnerable, special state, allegedly marginalised men still behave and commit crimes in the same numbers as … well, other men.

To steal from ‘The Outlaw Josey wales’; the gender politburo and their party faithful are pissing down women’s and children’s backs and trying to push the propaganda that it’s raining.

That’s just my perspective on it all. Rather oddly, I’m not willing to put our rights on a burning pyre to accommodate men’s sense of their superior entitlements. I care about women and children, though. And, regard women and children as having a right to parity of esteem and consideration.

Could you please refrain from misgendering her?

No.

I think ScrollingLeaves is referring to Jackie's sex rather than Jackie's gender.

Being forced to use the same language for the very different concepts of sex and gender is undoubtedly confusing and from time to time distressing, isn't it?

Such a shame the trans movement choose to go down that path Instead of allowing us to recognise and respect both sex and gender.

Perhaps our usual disruptor could refrain from asking other posters to lie.

You can believe what you like about yourself but that doesn't mean I have to join in. You can't hide from reality.

The child was lying in the hospital bed for one reason only which was that his sex was male but his (pronoun for the male sex pre-nonspeak ) parents wanted all traces of that removed or disguised by surgery.

Misgendering in relation to that past state of an operated upon little boy is nothing compared to what the child was actually put through illegally by his parents and doctors.

Parents similarly taking their daughters abroad for what is called in law Female Genital Mutilation would be prosecuted on their return.

If I were speaking to him,
or about him, within his social group, I would call him by his feminine name when speaking to him, and use his assumed feminine gender pronoun when speaking about him.

In the context of this discussion though, speaking about him as the child he was, I will not comply with that demand. I will not refrain from speaking about the child’s sex.

Remember my original post was a response to a clip of his mother laughing about his small penis and the operation it was being subjected to. I am not going to be like a journalist writing about ‘her penis’.

So telling for all the lurkers. Is Butterfly upset that parents had their child castrated at 16, because they had decided at two that he was gay? Nope. The real offence in Butterfly’s eyes is correctly stating the child’s sex.

Could you please refrain from mis-sexing him?

Agree

Although it is useful to be able to see the original to confirm the story about the husband's reaction to his child playing with toys, it nonetheless includes a claim about suicide among LGBT people which has been used to scare parents, and everyone in a position of responsibility for children and young people.
Republishing the entire video in this way means that people may take it at face value, believing, and being scared by, the suicide claims. There is also a risk of young people identifying with the suicidality claim.
For this reason it may be right for the video to be taken down.

Just watching the Miriam documentary now. Why am I not surprised that Miriam had a deeply homophobic father who subjected Miriam to religious conversion therapy because he didn't want a gay son and that Miriam was bullied by h* peers because * was a feminine boy who preferred to play with the girls.

I didn't feel sorry for him at all. He set out to make fools of these young men and he loved doing it. That smug litte smile of his was nauseating.