The Scottish Greens are revolting

[ArabellaScott]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/furious-lgbt-scottish-greens-say-party-could-leave-government-over-nhs-puberty-blockers-pause

At least, the Rainbow Greens are!

There's a petition for the Greens to leave Government, if anyone finds it please post the link or how to find it!

almost (but not quite) feel sorry for the TRA's. They have enjoyed fantastic success in the last ten years getting their own way by throwing tantrums. Now they are experiencing the unusual experience of being told to fuck off with their batshit nonsense the only recourse is to shout louder. Not going to work this time. How sad. Never mind.

This is proving joyously delicious to watch. TRAs and their political handmaidens (male & female) have rolled along unopposed for so long they absolutely cannot believe their victories are unravelling in real time.

Shouting, threatening, denouncing, stomping and accusing are proving ineffective. The outlandish claim of “social murder charter” (FFS who coined that term?) is attracting open derision, well, everywhere. The insincere lesbian (formerly queer) Ruth Hunt is seriously attempting to claim she knew bugger all about “youth gender medicine” and it was all down to doctors - no advocacy by Stonewall, no cherrypicking by Stonewall of appropriate responses from refuges and shelters re inclusion of TiMs and all the rest of it.
People are starting to peek over the edge and say something small publicly. It’s beginning to snowball.

The TRAs and their enablers have become so blatant in pushing their ideology there is an evidence trail a mile wide. So they can’t backpedal no matter how fast they try. I really hope the movers and shakers who got things done to change laws, public policies and discard every aspect of safeguarding for every vulnerable group in order to satisfy a very small minority are fully exposed, reported on and punished legally. Oh, and cancelled. Why not that too.

On the day that the government admit failure on carbon emissions this is what we get? From the greens ?

Give me a party focussed on climate change please

Agreed the irony is huge. The thing is the SNP to some extent have played the Greens by skirting expensive green aims while giving them "easier" social concessions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68841141#:~:text=The%20Scottish%20government%20is%20to,climate%20targets%20could%20also%20go.

It seems that the Bute House agreement can't last, a big chunk of te SNP members are sick of the alliance with the Greens, especially as the election looms. The SNP will be facing the danger of some voters going for the Greens which will weaken their chances against both Labour and the Tories or even the Lib Dems. The Greens have no chance of winning seats, but they can make the SNP lose them. They could fall into the role of a spoiler party.

I think there were quite a few… let’s say ‘not natural allies of the Rainbow Greens’… wanting to sign that petition and get the Bute House agreement torn up.

They are indeed, revolting. Especially Partick Harvie.

Love the title, @ArabellaScott !

And just noting that Zack Polanski of GPEW (his bio says 'Green Party Deputy Leader of England & Wales' but I think that might be a bit of a mistype) has retweeted India Willoughby retweeting the Rainbow Greens statement.

Surely the answer would be to provide the evidence that Cass couldn't find in her review to prove how safe these drugs are?

That would be a more rational response.

But the Rainbow Greens are going with 'murder charter'.

And Polanski is going with sheepishly retweeting a retweet. He won't actually tweet the Rainbow Greens because its so clearly illogical, extremist nonsense.

I think it is revolting that they want to continue to experiment on "trans" children.

Surely the answer would be to provide the evidence that Cass couldn't find in her review to prove how safe these drugs are?

You'd think! But they have approached it the way they approach everything, with gotchas, whataboutery, hyperbole, emotional blackmail, slurs, and unwillingness to discuss the issue.

I guess they know the evidence isn't there.

Brighton. Bristol.both hot spots for this lot.

Lest we forget.

What stage of grief are they currently at?

Zack Polanski of "I can help hypnotise you into bigger boobs", that Zack Polanski?
Still can't believe GPEW made him deputy leader. The guy's a complete twit.
www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/798031/can-you-really-think-your-boobs-bigger/

LOL I'd forgotten that! What a knob. Perhaps he can do the same for "trans women" so they don't have to take any drugs.

So, on the one hand, we have Dr Cass:

• these treatments might not be in the best interests of children, we should really do some work to check what is actually effective and not harmful

On the other hand we have Scottish Greens:

• we must keep experimenting on children, giving them medication which may dramatically impair their quality of life, and potentially be of no benefit. You want to kill them (and we want to decapitate terfs)

But remember of course, both sides of this debate are equally toxic 🙄

The SNP and the Greens each had ONE job. Deliver Independence and Save the Planet.

Fucksake.

The problem is that is all a lot of the fanatical SNP supporters think to. No they did NOT have just one job. They also have to run the Scottish NHS, education, roads, economy, public services, justice services, transport links including ferries….

Yes. My point is that they can't even manage the thing that is their supposed Raisons d'Etre, never mind anything else.

Anger, I think.
Bargaining, depression and acceptance to go.
the first stage - denial - was during 'No debate!! You bigot!'

I imagine the Sandyford clinic has made this decision as after the Cass Report they are wide open to the NHS in Scotland being sued into oblivion if the continue 'treating' patients as they have been.

The 'let them talk' strategy is working here - anybody who reads what the Scottish Greens are saying about puberty blockers has to wonder what kind of monsters make an aggressive stand on continuing something that may damage children. What kind of ideology will do that to people who at some stage must have had some degree of common sense and humanity? Is this what 'be kind' does to people?

I don't like hyperbole and conspiracy theories and I never ever exaggerate [as I've said at least a million times] but I'm starting to reflect on how things like the Inquisition grew out of groups of people who started out loving their neighbour as themselves... Dominic, Thomas Aquinas, Albertus Magnus etc were mostly scholarly reasonable humanist-lite chaps, but their order morphed into the board of management for the Inquisition.

For these Scottish Greens, dogma is the only thing that matters, and if some children get hurt along the way, well we've protected the important thing, haven't we? We haven't wavered from our sacred declared position, in spite of satanic threats like peer-reviewed studies and the BMJ...

I'm not easily scared, but that kind of mentality sends a shiver up my spine.

It is worryingly clear that so many of these fanatical politicians only listen to activists. You can see this from their regurgitation of the lies about Cass; 100 papers rejected, no non-double blind trials included, banning treatment for under 25 year olds. I have heard politicians restate these lies several times over the last few days making it quite clear that they both haven’t read the report and that they are only listening to very biased sources of information.