News commentary on the Cass Report

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Thread to record where and when to find tv/radio commentary on the Cass report, so that it is easy for people to find it on catchup. If you’re listening/watching and it comes up, please record the channel/show and the time

I can’t believe YouTube have attached a warning about conversion therapy from the American Trevor Project to this BMJ video. What idiot at YouTube thinks that’s an appropriate thing to do?!

They've got receipts from mermaids, Stonewall, GiRES and gendered intelligence in that article.

Finally. These people are being held accountable in the press.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hq26wn

A whole episode of Newscast on the Cass Review, led by Adam Fleming and with Dr Hilary Cass interviewed too. Newscast have a lot of younger listeners so I was interested in the angle they took. Turned out to be very much - young people have been let down, treatments should be evidence based, this hasn't happened in gender clinics. Balanced, got the main points out there I think. No mention of higher numbers of girls etc though.

This is the next stage. Considerations for those people who actively mislead and didn't due diligence in the safe guarding roles and the possibility of criminal charges.

Big big questions for me about adult services withholding information. There's no earthly reason to do so if you support evidence based medicine - unless you are fairly concerned that there's something amiss. This is backside covering.

How Susie Green was able to refer and pressure for medication without any medical qualifications.

Then there's the whole Polly Carmichael question.

How Stonewall law was able to become so widespread and no one thought to check on the quality of its advice and no one noticed that it's very definition of homosexuality is homophobic.

How political parties themselves have acted to try and silence whistleblowers and disenfranchise women from political participation.

We need to keep going...

Yes I’ve seen that on other similar videos on YouTube. Has anyone seen that kind of thing for other topics?

I came here to say the same about Channel 4 news last night. Their opening intro to the story took exactly the same angle, although in this case it was a teenage girl and her mum with the addition of a sad-faced journo interviewing them. It was infuriating. I don’t think the reporter had grasped some of the core findings from the Cass report re children needing a holistic approach wrt mental health and autism assessments. Or she deliberately overlooked them for the sake of the “sad teenage victim” angle she was clearly trying to bludgeon viewers with.

They redeemed themselves though with a live interview with Dr “there’s so such thing as a trans child” Bell who, frankly, deserves an OBE.

Absolutely. The interview with Aidan Kelly was infuriating and I noted Dr David Bell specifically referred to Kelly as Mr Kelly - I hadn't realised Kelly isn't a medical doctor.

Channel 4 have been Guardian-like in their biased coverage of trans issues in the past but Krishnan Guru-Murthy was generally quite a good interviewer.

And he allowed Dr Bell to correct the picture presented by Mr Kelly, before he answered K G-M's question.

Surgeons go by Mr though, is he definitely not medically trained?

I'm quite shocked that's there's been so little mention of detransitioned people.

But is that deliberate, to not weaponise?

I also didn't see the very effective argument that if adults can regret and realise it wasn't what would help them, how can we expect children who have much more immature brains and cognitive reasoning skills to "know their minds?"

I'd love to see people like Ritchie Herron and Sinead Watson interviewed on the news.

He’s a clinical psychologist and his doctorate is in psychology.

Also, according to his bio on here, a member of WAPATH.

https://www.genderplus.com/team

The Irish Independent had two articles about it.

The first, published yesterday, led with the views of BeLonGTo (Irish LGBT charity focused on children & young people) who misrepresented the Cass Report and gave the impression it supported their crusade for more medical intervention, and only really explained Cass's findings in the second half of a long article. It was reprinted from The Independent UK, which I think explains why it was so misleading (lots of good UK newspapers but that isn't one).
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/irelands-belongto-responds-to-uk-cass-report-we-urgently-need-gender-care-for-young-trans-people/a501606620.html

Second one, published today, written by Ellen Coyne who is an Irish Independent writer, is better and leads with the findings of the Cass report, represents them more clearly, and includes a shorter quote from BeLonGTo at the end.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/uk-report-will-influence-policy-on-healthcare-for-transgender-children-here/a322594160.html

So BeLonGTo are doubling down and happy to mislead the public about the evidence base and rationale for medical and social transitioning.
BeLonGTo were one of the signatories of the infamous letter calling for Irish GC women to be denied political and media representation. A few years back, but after they'd signed the letter, An Post were donating a percentage of the sales from Pride-themed postal stamps to this organisation.

I noted that on Woman’s Hour yesterday the word “invested” was used twice by either Emma or Hannah Barnes when referring to Mr Aidan Kelly: as pointed out, he runs a private “gender clinic” so his income and professional reputation rely on the shaky unscientific notion of “gender identity” and providing medical treatment (his clinic prescribes PBs) in the search for this elusive “gender identity” for adolescents.

It was good to hear Hannah Barnes focus on the exponential growth over the last ten years in teenage girls coming forward for treatment. I really hope to hear this being explored in more depth in the mainstream media rather than yesterday’s Ch4 video report which perpetuated the “trans child” narrative.

Ah so not medically trained at all then.

@MissScarletInTheBallroom unfortunately Ritchie was bbc deplatformed after getting a bit too sweary with a researcher.

That's a shame. I imagine Sinead is probably at risk of getting a bit sweary too.

I imagine I would be the same if I had to talk about doctors removing my reproductive organs when I was mentally unwell.

Free Speech Nation on GB News is going to be all over this, I imagine. Whatever you think of GB News, Andrew Doyle has been EXCELLENT on this issue.

( it's on at 7pm on a Sunday, if pp haven't seen it )

Yeah, it's brilliant that there is a place where AD has apparently been free to track this as he sees fit. He's not just dogged about this, he's very good at platforming all sides and doing his research and letting people say what they actually mean.

Not sure if this has been linked - an excellent article from Lucy Bannerman at the Times joining up the dots about the culpability of Gendered Intelligence, GIRES, Stonewall and Mermaids. Hopefully we'll see public funding for them dry up in the next year as their involvement in this scandal is highlighted. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dd694117-9c23-46ff-8974-be360680e5e4?shareToken=21a875fedcb0e5a5e3de1974e6116b24

This is an article for parents and teachers to save and use whenever any of thse organisations tries to sell its "services" to a school. They're completely compromised with all this.

I hope to hear this being explored in more depth in the mainstream media rather than yesterday’s Ch4 video report which perpetuated the “trans child” narrative.

I’d hope so too, but I got the distinct impression that in some outlets there’s an almost deliberate attempt to ignore the people that the whole debacle is really about - girls and young women. The narrative is still focusing on testimony from adult men. It’s also possible that really thinking about it is too painful for some of those who espoused the “trans child” ideology, because it would expose their ignorance and stupidity. So they double down, or try to spin it away.

Victoria Atkins just gave a reasonably good, short interview on LBC. Succinct and to the point. I hope it will be repeated/ re-broadcast over the next few days.

in some outlets there’s an almost deliberate attempt to ignore the people that the whole debacle is really about - girls and young women. The narrative is still focusing on testimony from adult men

The Telegraph has an interview with Kiera:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/10/keira-bell-detransitioner-cass-review-tavistock-clinic/

That's a moving article with Keira and there are some lovely comments btl .

The Times leader today - commenting on how silent the government is in the face of such a massive medical scandal:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/23043651-b0c3-4185-a315-715a20e58014?shareToken=50815c703f46f42a48851a695ccba3c1

Guardian returning to form today, advertising Aiden Kelly's private gender practice in the guise of "helping" troubled children:

www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/11/trans-children-in-england-worse-off-now-than-four-years-ago-says-psychologist

As an old Guardian reader I am still horrified to see them shilling for big Pharma and private medicine over a systemic, careful NHS medical review, but as we've seen repeatedly over the past few years the rot goes very deep.

That Times leader is really sharp - almost like the leader writer has read all the years of discussion here.

It might have been even better had The Times acknowledged journalism’s role in this too, though! IPSO guidance on pronoun use for convicted rapists etc- it’s all part of the same thing. Yes, irreversible harm to children is the biggest scandal, but there are many others and journalists have been playing along with it all for too long.