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News commentary on the Cass Report

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HagoftheNorth · 10/04/2024 07:29

Thread to record where and when to find tv/radio commentary on the Cass report, so that it is easy for people to find it on catchup. If you’re listening/watching and it comes up, please record the channel/show and the time

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WarriorN · 13/04/2024 09:27

Matthew D'anconda and another Matthew making this point here:

x.com/matthewdancona/status/1778820424425525748?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA. (Video)

And Helen Saxby in the critic also drawing parallels

thecritic.co.uk/resisting-the-gender-goliath/

News commentary on the Cass Report
WarriorN · 13/04/2024 09:28

d'Ancona, sorry.

I made him in to a 🐍

KellieJaysLapdog · 13/04/2024 09:30

YouTube interview with Erin Reed, the American transactivist who is famous for rapid fire ‘debunking’ of anything that doesn’t fit the TRA worldview (by debunking I mean ‘randomly making stuff up’).

I’ve not listened yet, but Erin is often the origin of the broken-telephone style lines the activists parrot so I’m going to try and get through it while doing my Saturday morning chores. Anyone want to accompany me into the Tunnel of TRA Batshittery?

Cass's Trans Healthcare Review Is Political | Curtis Daly Talks To Erin Reed

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https://youtu.be/S49Qe5-1APU?si=H_zCIyR9E7atJWzR

SpringCalling · 13/04/2024 09:31

Janice in great form as usual:

Cass was a skirmish, now prepare for a war

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/24853897-137b-41ea-9269-0492ca259c94?shareToken=69191c156cdc20a9d0b0a7fe6b83dec1

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 09:39

Keira Bell in the times (sorry I don't have a share.)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/keira-bell-interview-justice-cass-gender-ncczjgn0d

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 10:02

An attempt to link a share by @Igneococcus from another thread, not sure if it works....

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/93280ebb-13b3-49e3-8d4a-13f4b9971fbd?shareToken=d2986a4c905e996a51f0d8ba685a0a82

borntobequiet · 13/04/2024 10:20

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 09:23

The main news channels have dropped it like a stone it feels - we really need a statutory inquiry.

I've seen analogies with the post office scandal, very different obviously.

Because, unlike even the Post Office scandal, this particular can of worms, once opened, will compromise almost every institution in the country, including their own organisations. They will have to confront their own irrational beliefs and disordered thinking, their personal and collective biases and their disregard for women and children. They will have to acknowledge that they are stupid, bad people.
None of them want that.

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 10:26

Very true.

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 10:33

Has this been shared?

https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1779067182539825408?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

In the times, how stonewall aggressively suppressed transgender trend's writing to schools

I don't have a share token but did the air plane trick and caught a couple of quotes.

Hunt 'we thought we were doing what was right according to experts' grrr

The evidence-led approach advocated by the resource pack was sent out to thousands of schools by the pressure group Transgender Trend in February 2018. Much of its content has since been upheld by Dr Hilary Cass in her landmark review.

In response, Stonewall Scotland told its tens of thousands of followers on Twitter/X: “We, in the strongest possible terms, denounce and condemn this publication. If it lands on your desk, do the right thing: shred it.”

A further Stonewall statement branded the pack as “dangerous” material, “masquerading as a professional, ‘evidence-based’ advice. One thing we want every educator to be clear on is that they must have nothing to do with this deeply damaging publication.”

RethinkingLife · 13/04/2024 10:43

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 09:23

The main news channels have dropped it like a stone it feels - we really need a statutory inquiry.

I've seen analogies with the post office scandal, very different obviously.

I attribute some of the responsibility for this to NHS Comms.

It was predictable this would happen. The various NEDs on the relevant boards must have alerted them to these scenarios.

Pockets of the NHS aside, I sincerely doubt that the NHS wants to put its full weight behind this. Witness the refusal of the clinics to hand over data without mandatory direction and I still wonder if those clinical leads will attempt to get their professional bodies involved.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/04/2024 11:10

Thank you for those links, WarriorN.

It is incredible to think that the government may still be about to push through the Ban-Conversion-Therapy bill in spite of the evidence that it is psychological therapy that is needed for
gender questioning treatment, but that is precisely what could be called ‘conversion’ therapy by tras simply because it is not affirmative.

Meanwhile, affirmation of trans in a child may well be gay conversion therapy.

It is a failure of logic to Ban Conversion Therapy for LGBT as a homogeneous group.

Thinking about the ‘Gillick Competence’ decision regarding the Kiera Bell case in the Court of Appeal, (o e of the links you posted), meaning she was deemed able to know what her hormone treatment entailed - does this apply to all medical treatment?

At what age do children not require their parent/guardian to sign before they undergo a medical procedure ( especially one that is effectively experimental)?

Gillick Competence must have been decided at the time of the Victoria Gillick case simply because it was thought to be in the best interest of society. Teen girls not getting pregnant must have been seen as the lesser evil when compared to giving them the right to choose birth control in secret, especially as their parents cannot prevent the sex/ pregnancy otherwise.

It seems wrong to transfer this principle of underage permission to puberty blockers etc.

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 13:12

Thanks MrsOverton

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 13:13

Thread commenting on the gall of Ruth Hunt in that article here:

The absolute brass neck of Ruth Hunt www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5049155-the-absolute-brass-neck-of-ruth-hunt

KellieJaysLapdog · 13/04/2024 13:18

I’m hoping for some indepth stuff in the Sundays - there must’ve been various investigations/interviews in the works and now is a good time to get them out.

Crankywiddershins · 13/04/2024 17:02

KellieJaysLapdog · 13/04/2024 09:30

YouTube interview with Erin Reed, the American transactivist who is famous for rapid fire ‘debunking’ of anything that doesn’t fit the TRA worldview (by debunking I mean ‘randomly making stuff up’).

I’ve not listened yet, but Erin is often the origin of the broken-telephone style lines the activists parrot so I’m going to try and get through it while doing my Saturday morning chores. Anyone want to accompany me into the Tunnel of TRA Batshittery?

No thanks, but I'll be waiting with gin on the other side.

Iloveshihtzus · 13/04/2024 17:22

I don’t spend much time on Twitter, but since the Cass report I’ve looked at posts from JKR and Matthew D’Ancona, Julie Bindel and Glinner. And sadly, I’ve read the responses. Oh dear God - there are thousands of vile, hateful, angry men out there. I don’t agree with Scotland’s hate speech law, not our Irish proposal, but I wonder if the police ever look into the postings of some TRA’s, they seem deranged and potentially dangerous.

Datun · 13/04/2024 17:31

Iloveshihtzus · 13/04/2024 17:22

I don’t spend much time on Twitter, but since the Cass report I’ve looked at posts from JKR and Matthew D’Ancona, Julie Bindel and Glinner. And sadly, I’ve read the responses. Oh dear God - there are thousands of vile, hateful, angry men out there. I don’t agree with Scotland’s hate speech law, not our Irish proposal, but I wonder if the police ever look into the postings of some TRA’s, they seem deranged and potentially dangerous.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

Why are so many of these men angry about protecting children?

RedToothBrush · 13/04/2024 17:33

Datun · 13/04/2024 17:31

Makes you think, doesn't it?

Why are so many of these men angry about protecting children?

And why didn't Scotland's hate crime extend to women if it was all about as stopping hate?

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 19:03

Brilliant piece from Hadley in the times. (I'm so sorry I don't have a share!)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hadley-freeman-cass-review-gender-trans-girls-women-6ttz5sg8s

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 19:11

Thank you!

Hadley has posted some excerpts from her book on anorexia on Twitter; GIDs clinicians she spoke to described it as the new anorexia. Which mn was also certainly talking about 5-6 years ago

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 19:15

Hadley's images from Twitter:

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 19:17

In November 2014 searches for transgender out did searches for anorexia and have remained that way since"