No more puberty blockers for children from the NHS - reported in the Times!

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This is massive - and long overdue

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/97ce2e81-2884-42f5-bb82-2a2778f2cc91?shareToken=9568e79f0683beea68ffe5e978b05a29

I know we're derailing at this point, but for goodness sake @Cailin66, please accept that there is a University of Dublin.

Go into Trinity's website. Look at the crest at the top of the page. Alongside it lists both names, Trinity College and University of Dublin.

I'm Irish (not from Dublin and didn't attend Trinity) and I have heard the term University of Dublin used by people previously. That's how I picked up on your error in the first place. Just because you haven't heard the term used yourself doesn't mean it's made up!

My point was to make a simple correction of a factual error. It seems to have turned into a big thing now because you won't accept you made a mistake.

If another thing that could come from this it is

1. PhDs should no longer have to be original research, maybe they could study in depth other works if they are going to be a lecturer

2 universities should not have to prove they are doing research to get into the uni rankings

How on earth could someone earn a PhD without doing original research? How would knowledge advance without original research? By all means stop encouraging queer-theory shenanigans, but don't devalue research degrees.

Er, no.
Certainly not for sciences!

@Keeprejoining
@DeanElderberry

One way that the "original research" question could be overcome might also contribute to reducing the "reproducibility crisis" in the social sciences. As it stands, people cite existing research without successfully replicating its results.

A degree of repetition might actually be useful as part of a broader thesis.

Or they could try abolishing the social 'sciences' altogether.

Hahaha, true...

The titles of some of this <ahem> research reminds me of the Kennel Club. I believe when it started up the dogs registered had names like Spot and Fido. As time passed they got more elaborate until names like West Necluda Collins English Dictionary show up. I thought it's because each dog has to have a unique name and the straight forward ones have got used up.

I think as time passes it must get harder and harder to do original research so weird crap happens.

Most subjects have no shortage of new hard datasets or documents or objects or that have never been studied, new scientific techniques for analysing existing data, new approaches for reading work (looking for and listening to women is good, and still a novelty in many areas). And none of it particularly weird or crappy.

One problem seems to be a teeny tiny corner of academia that wants all their research to be about their own and other people's sex lives. The sad thing is that that and the greed of the management class might well collapse serious research in the UK for a generation, looking at what is happening to the university sector.

What?? You don't seem to understand the point of university or postgraduate study.

Possibly though the re-introduction of polytechnic status for institutions that don't do original research wouldn't be a bad idea.

Demonstrating the ability to do independent original research is how you earn a PhD. Postgrad study without original research gets you a Masters degree.

Expanding the frontiers of human knowledge is the fundamental purpose of a university, with the subsidiary purpose of providing undergraduate study opportunities being secondary to that.

The problem is decades of lack of rigor in the reviewing and supervision processes in social sciences that have allowed a half-baked mishmash of bollocks to be presented as "knowledge" with no reasonable standard of proof and there are now loads of PhD holders who don't have a decent grip on rational thought.

Steady on! That would mean an end to psychology, anthropology, linguistics and the sane bits of sociology.

all the more dosh for history and ecology . . .

Well fuck 'em then, they've got no bloody excuses.

I looked at the bios of some of the names on that list, the nonsense they've spent chunks of their lives on and I just thought the Mikado needs updating again. Although the list might not be 'little'.

when my friends were looking at unis with their children, they thought that the research meant that the lecturers had time to study the units they were teaching, they didn't realise it meant that there was a whole niche industry if producing papers away from the students and not involving the teaching staff.

It's not niche.

For many University lecturers, in Science depts at least, research is the main focus of their careers. (They supervise the research, write papers, apply for funding etc, they're not typically hands on in the lab.)

Lecturing to undergraduates is often seen as an annoying chore ime.

All of my children applied via the CAO for Irish Universities including one this year. One of my children was offered a place in Trinity and turned it down for Edinburgh. Their school brought the pupils to Trinity for the open day etc. Nobody calls it University of Dublin ever. The other main university in Dublin is UCD University College Dublin. Which is why nobody calls Trinity anything other than Trinity. The most important point is the man isn't actually working in Trinity. He's an artist. As in paint. The person compiling the list put what is obviously a mistake by putting in a different name for Trinity. This would be a typical mistake by someone in the UK. That is my point.

I've just seen that Sandyford (Scottish Tavistock) plan to pause puberty blockers:
https://www.sandyford.scot/sexual-health-services/gender-service-at-sandyford/gender-young-people-service/

If your child went to TCD as a post graduate student and got a PhD they would get it from the University of Dublin, not from Trinity College Dublin, because the University, not its sole college, is the conferring authority.

And if they wanted to sign a petition and add their degree on, even though their current job was not in a University, their Degree would have to be listed as 'PhD University of Dublin.

Which is how everyone styles it.

I doubt the person conferring the list had anything to do with it. The artists used the correct wording. Making himself seem a bit presumptuous imo, unless something in a degree he took at some time in the past is relevant to the treatment of modern teenagers.

And the reason for including the conferring authority (and this is particularly the case when you are not attached to a University) is to establish that it is a degree earned from a place with a respected research profile, not something you have bought off the internet.

Which is exactly why the efforts of universities should be redirected away from research and into the student experience. If research is done it should pass a useful and sensible test.
no wonder students are disenchanted with their undergraduate education. The research is disconnected from education of the basics

The whole point of universities is to produce not just educated young people but also high quality research. Good research can help to drive the economy. Witness Cambridge Science Park.

The production of Mickey Mouse bullshit research isn't a problem with research as such, it's a problem with oversight of universities

Great news! I mean, the bare minimum in the light of Cass, but still.

This report is rather blistering, from America:

https://www.the11thhourblog.com/post/dr-miriam-grossman-leading-the-charge-against-the-gender-industry-and-privileged-activism

During her testimony, Dr. Grossman made several critical points:

"There is no evidence of long-term benefit, but there is evidence of harm."
"Medicine is currently entangled with politics."
"Our precious resources should not support such a pernicious experiment."
"Sex is established at conception, not assigned at birth."
"Sex is not an arbitrary designation that can change."

I don't know a great deal about Scotland except they seem more captured than the rest of the island, but this sounds like good news.

Damn. I can't disagree with it and it also warms my leftist heart as it deeply understands the power imbalances of institutions vs those they aim to help. Dr. Grossman IS a no-nonsense American psychiatrist with the gravitas and clearly the ethics to stand solidly against the entire gender ideology. While I understand why Genspect works to build bridges, this whole thing needs an Emperor's No Clothes groundswell to shut it completely down. I only hope that Genspect's ultimate goal is to go out of business.