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No more puberty blockers for children from the NHS - reported in the Times!

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/03/2024 16:21

This is massive - and long overdue

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/97ce2e81-2884-42f5-bb82-2a2778f2cc91?shareToken=9568e79f0683beea68ffe5e978b05a29

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borntobequiet · 15/04/2024 07:55

RedToothBrush · 14/04/2024 22:12

Excellent work Loobijee.

Once again the staggering level of narcassism going on with most of those signatories leaves my jaw on the floor. In what world do these Arts Academics think they live where they are qualified to question the credentials and methods of Hilary Cass?

And they are all happy to have their names associated with Andrew Wakefield of all people in this context.

Its mind blowing.

They live in their own bubble world where what they do is exceedingly Clever and Important.
They have no idea who Wakefield is, his involvement in the MMR debacle or the harm he caused.
They are stupid and ignorant.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/04/2024 08:00

the thing is we can all sit here and laugh at the ludicrousness of these people with a phd in gender queer literature of the 10th century or whatever signing this but it’ll be presented as x100s academics sign letter against cass

meanwhile the usual popular scientists on Twitter are avoiding commenting on it like the plague and I don’t know if academics in universities with the actual academic rigour to back cass are organising a letter in support but somehow I bet they’re not

it’s just frustrating that it feels like we’re already back into “both sides”

sorry fir Monday morning grumps!

Cailin66 · 15/04/2024 08:04

Looking over to Maynooth University Ireland we have Naoise Murphy:

I joined Maynooth University as a Lecturer/Assistant Professor in English in 2023.
My research and teaching interests are in queer and trans studies, gender and sexuality, modern and contemporary literature and postcolonial studies.
I received my PhD from the University of Cambridge Centre for Gender Studies in 2023. My thesis, ‘Queering Irish Women’s Writing in the Twentieth Century’, contextualises fraught debates about gender, class, race and sexuality in contemporary Ireland by putting queer studies in dialogue with mid-twentieth-century Irish literature. With a focus on space, haunting and ‘bad feelings’, it offers a queer reading of the fiction of Elizabeth Bowen, Kate O’Brien, Molly Keane and Dorothy Macardle. I am currently developing this work for publication.
I am committed to public engagement and diverse forms of knowledge production. I have a particular interest in oral history, queer history, radical history and site-specific methodologies. I have worked on collaborative and community research projects investigating queer history and colonial legacies in Cambridge, gendered experiences in higher education and radical history in London.

Her publications are:

Year Publication
2023 Naoise Murphy (2023) 'Camp Comedy and Submerged Trouble: Molly Keane's Queer Collaborations'. English Studies, 104 (6):1097-1117. [DOI]
2022 Naoise Murphy (2022) 'The Queer Transnational in Kate O'Brien and Elizabeth Bowen'. Review of Irish Studies in Europe, 5 (1). ^doi.org/10.32803/rise.v5i1.2962^^ [Full-Text]^
2021 Naoise Murphy (2021) 'Kate O'Brien: Queer Hauntings in the Feminist Archive'. Journal of Feminist Scholarship, 19 . [DOI]
2021 Naoise Murphy (2021) 'Queering history with Sarah Waters: Tipping the Velvet, lesbian erotic reading and the queer historical novel'. Journal of International Women's Studies, 22 (2).
2019 Naoise Murphy (2019) 'The Right to Dream: Gender, Modernity, and the Problem of Class in Kate O'Brien's Bourgeois Bildungsromane'. Irish University Review, 48 (2).

That's all very odd stuff to become a lecturer in English.

Cailin66 · 15/04/2024 08:06

Helpfully our Naoise is also on Twitter

Naoise Murphy on X: "Thank you to @translibdub for a brilliant, thought-provoking workshop at @MaynoothEnglish this morning! And to @fabratton and @socialmedea for an afternoon of gorgeous conversation (I forgot to take any photos so here's my pile of books instead) https://t.co/egYlqLJOou" / X (twitter.com)

Nice pile of sex books there, including a book by Grace Lavery. There's a picture of the lovely Naoise and she's retweeted about the Cass Review.

She's a full on traitor to her sex in my opinion. A most worth TRA.

And of course she’s a she/they …

https://twitter.com/naoisemurphy/status/1778453665461805429?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

RedToothBrush · 15/04/2024 08:07

I wonder if a number have signed because they feel that their academic grifts might disappear if the Cass Review leads to research that conflicts with their area of speciality...

...there's massive conflicts of interest going on here.

Cailin66 · 15/04/2024 08:20

RedToothBrush · 15/04/2024 08:07

I wonder if a number have signed because they feel that their academic grifts might disappear if the Cass Review leads to research that conflicts with their area of speciality...

...there's massive conflicts of interest going on here.

I doubt it's that deep. Seems like they are all part of a cult. They have one view and support each other in that view, a whole world of their own. Of note is that most of the signatories are women.

On Naoishe's Twitter is a picture of a London Bridge action against Cass. Most of the activists are wearing masks. Hiding who they are, that's telling in itself.

Rightsraptor · 15/04/2024 08:28

@Datun and @BettyFilous have mentioned the joker academic who researches into the pleasure of the sound of food, or whatever twaddle it was, but let's not forget the theatre that recently had a trigger warning for audience members who might be distressed by the sound of actors eating oranges. I'm wondering now who did the research to prove that. (Probably no one, just attention seeking).

What a complex world they have created.

Cailin66 · 15/04/2024 08:35

The second person from Maynooth College Ireland is Angelos Bollas, Maynouth University, some of his studies include:

My research is broadly defined within sexuality and masculinity studies. In particular, I research male homosociality in society and culture, the role of sexuality in the socialisation of men, the ways in which cultural discourses contribute to societal responses to sexualities, and sexuality-related issues in education.

Most of his writings are about sex. Does this seem to be a theme for these people. I was unaware that universiteis were so interested in topics of sex.

Angelos also lectures in DCU (Dublin City University). It’s almost like being an English or Sociology Lecturer has an underlining sex theme. University was never so titillating when I attended, as it happens I did one year of English (as in actual literature) and one year of Sociology (by the current Irish President) .

Cailin66 · 15/04/2024 08:36

"What a complex world they have created."

Angelos is way smarter than Naoise, he has his Twitter on private. But before the week is out I fully expect Naoise to go the same way.

We can't see the followers of Angelos. I assume they are much the same. And full of the people in the signature list.

LoobiJee · 15/04/2024 08:38

the thing is we can all sit here and laugh at the ludicrousness of these people with a phd in gender queer literature of the 10th century or whatever signing this but it’ll be presented as x100s academics sign letter against cass”

You are absolutely right.

And looking bigger picture…. the thing that would bring this whole scam to a screeching halt, would be every single parent of a Yr 12 in the UK writing to University Vice Chancellors and saying “no way I’m allowing my child to get saddled with tens of thousands of debt and what amounts to an extra 10% tax rate, if this kind of narcissistic self indulgence and utter nonsense is what my child’s cash is contributing towards”.

What the top brass care about is ‘bums on seats’ (sorry, “student fees”) and their £300k+ salaries. Which means they need to care about what parents think about them and their institutions during an economic crisis.

SerafinasGoose · 15/04/2024 08:38

What a thread. I suppose I shouldn't be shocked.

I know there's a sizeable number of academics on FWR. And we've all been bewailing the state of UKHE for some time, but this is on a whole new level.

My field is Humanities. What the hell would I know about paediatrics? One of the first things I tell my undergraduates is that the Humanities do raid others' disciplines and blend it into the ephemeral melting-pot known as 'theory'. But we do have to stay within our remit. The sciences are well outside what we are competent to do.

Until very, very recently this shit would have got any academic totally discredited. Claiming an expertise you don't own is about as big a no-no as plagiarism.

I'm also ashamed to say I know more than one of the names cited above. Not just heard of them within the course of research, or seeing names cited, I know them.

Words fail me.

Kucinghitam · 15/04/2024 08:39

Couple of PhD students in that list too.

Decades, decades of really in-depth expertise in relevant fields in that list.

Much impressive. Very wow.

pickledandpuzzled · 15/04/2024 08:42

I’ve gone right off the word heteronormative. It used to be so useful. Now it’s become a big stick to beat anyone with a grain of common sense.

pickledandpuzzled · 15/04/2024 08:43

And fun coloured hair. That’s been ruined for me, too. <sulk>

Cailin66 · 15/04/2024 08:51

As Angelos has his Twitter blocked I can only see some snippets, like these:

My new article with J. Homosexuality is out now! Gay men who advocate being sexually versatile often criticise tops and bottoms for being .

A great talk by @rvytniorgu at #sexpanics focusing on masc panic and fem shaming in gay porn.

There's also an image, where Agnelos reaches on his gmail to conduct interviews with "Men who prefer and engage in non-penatrative sex" .

For Mumsnet readers, Maynooth University was originally a Catholic Seminary for the teaching of Irish priests.

DialSquare · 15/04/2024 08:59

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I opened that up to read and saw the photo which made me think that they were not making much effort for the cause. Then realised it was an advert!

No more puberty blockers for children from the NHS - reported in the Times!
MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 09:08

Igneococcus · 15/04/2024 06:16

She has broad research interests, but is principally interested in how our health is affected by the things we do and experience, both positive and negative.

Wow, why has nobody ever thought of doing this before Dr Sumner?

I exercise, eat healthily and get eight hours sleep a night. Can I have a PhD and tenure, please?

EdithStourton · 15/04/2024 09:21

RedToothBrush · 15/04/2024 07:24

A few more for your viewing pleasure this morning.

Dr Chris Millora, Goldsmiths, University of London
I am Lecturer in Education and Leverhulme Trust Early Career Fellow, leading the project 'Literacies of Dissent: learning, youth activism and social change' in the Philippines and Chile. Broadly, I research links between youth learning/literacies and social justice, particularly in Global South contexts.

Dr Glyn Everett, University of the West of England
About me
I am a Senior Research Fellow in the Centre for Architecture and Built Environment Research (CABER).

I have previously worked on two EPSRC-funded projects looking at the multiple potential benefits of adopting a blue-green approach to flood risk management.

A distinguishing aspect of this research was the concern for understandings and solutions to be co-constructed with stakeholders and the wider public, to ensure all feel some ownership of the end-product.

I am now keen to pursue this work further, considering access & usability of BGI for disabled people, and how co-construction could improve this. I also intend to gain funding to conduct research around different aspects of built environment access auditing and built environment education for inclusive design.

Dr Christopher Lloyd, University of Hertfordshire
Meet Dr Christopher Lloyd, a Senior Lecturer in English Literature. He is also the co-chair of the LGBTQ+ staff network, which he values as a 'space for people to come together safely.' He shares his ideas to achieve greater equality for all.

Since 2020 I have been co-chair of the LGBTQ+ staff network. Before that I wasn’t a member, as I didn’t know if it was ‘for’ me, in a sense. I also lived far from campus, so I knew it would be hard to make social events. But now I am involved I can see how – if nothing else – it provides a space for people to come together safely. It now feels like a haven outside of the usual university week.

I think as soon as you find the people around you who feel and experience similar things, or at least can understand your own individuality – and actively support it – then you automatically feel safer in a work/study environment.

As a sector we need to do more in terms of representation (in management, in curricula, in teaching etc). We need to support and champion (explicitly) trans people, especially trans people of colour. This also means not inviting scholars to the University who have track records of making discriminatory comments to members of the LGBTQ+ community.

We need to help students and staff to understand gender and sexuality in a more nuanced way: e.g. knowing the difference between sex/gender, understanding the LGBTQIA+ categories, thinking about non-binary identities and foregrounding pronouns etc.

Every LGBTQ+ person has probably been discriminated in some way during their life; those who are trans and gender nonconforming, or those who are queer and POC, probably more so. Staff and students continually misgender colleagues of mine, for instance.

We need to move away from heteronormative models of understanding the world and have straight people acknowledge that ‘coming out’ isn’t a one-time process, but rather an ongoing thing.

Dr Matilda Fitzmaurice, Lancaster University
Description
I will investigate the growing phenomenon of (in)voluntary childlessness in response to climate change to show how the domain of (social) reproduction is, and will be, a critical space in which responses to the climate emergency will play out, and how the human is adapting to climate change. While many media narratives present the decision not to have (more) children as simply another consumer choice among others, my qualitative, feminist research aims to giving voice to participants’ diverse, situated understandings of their (non)reproductive choices in relation to the climate emergency. Furthermore, I aim to provide insights on whether participants are cultivating alternative practices of family- and kin-making.

Layperson's description
My research asks how the climate emergency is changing our understandings of what it means to be human. All over the world, people are adjusting their expectations about how to live safe, healthy and fulfilling human lives in a climatically unstable future. In much political and media conversation about the climate emergency, the focus is on how to reorganise and transform our societies in areas such as energy, transport, food and housing. However, these questions often overlook the "everyday spaces" of the family and the household. For some people in wealthier, industrialised countries, the climate emergency is contributing to decisions to have fewer children, or not to have children at all. In other words, they are thinking differently about what a family, and a family life, look like. This project has two aims: first, to establish whether the climate emergency is contributing to decisions to have (fewer) children; and second, to understand whether these decisions involve alternative family structures or relationships.

I am left wondering how any of these people would cope with life outside academia. And how most of them really should be.

It's absolutely mind-blowing. I can't take any of them seriously.

DH and I have been saying things along these lines for years. Some absolute bullshit is publicly funded with talentless grifters paid good money to churn it out.

Meanwhile universities close their physics and chemistry departments, because obvs Interpretive Dance and Gender Studies are loads more important. Well, they get the bums on seats.

We're going to look round in a decade or two as Asian unis and economies race ahead and go, 'Oh, oops.'

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/04/2024 09:42

I opened that up to read and saw the photo which made me think that they were not making much effort for the cause. Then realised it was an advert!

A tough paper round Grin

PronounssheRa · 15/04/2024 09:45

There are 18 to 21 year olds paying 9 grand a year to be taught by some of these people. What an absolute waste.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 09:47

pickledandpuzzled · 15/04/2024 08:42

I’ve gone right off the word heteronormative. It used to be so useful. Now it’s become a big stick to beat anyone with a grain of common sense.

In the days when I read the online Guardian there was a BTL poster who used the word so often it was as if she was on a piece work rate.

TheClogLady · 15/04/2024 09:50

DialSquare · 15/04/2024 08:59

I opened that up to read and saw the photo which made me think that they were not making much effort for the cause. Then realised it was an advert!

😆😆😆

TheClogLady · 15/04/2024 09:59

Agree re: ‘heteronormative’, Pickledandpuzzled, it used to have some value as a descriptor but it’s now used as a judgement/shaming tool against normies.

Next up, Lo Marshall (they/them) Dr Marshall is Research Fellow at the Bartlett School of Architecture, focused on EDI in the built environment, with particular focus on "LGBTQIA+ club nightlife" with their teaching focused on "queer nightlife" and other "community spaces".

People like this RUINED clubbing!

Reminds me of a Miranda Yardley* quote (paraphrasing, can’t be arsed to look it up’

“Being a tr*y used to be FUN!”

*don’t smite me, Mumsnet. Miranda is a post op MtF transsexual and was referring to himself [pic] (pronouns are correct).

RedToothBrush · 15/04/2024 10:06

SerafinasGoose · 15/04/2024 08:38

What a thread. I suppose I shouldn't be shocked.

I know there's a sizeable number of academics on FWR. And we've all been bewailing the state of UKHE for some time, but this is on a whole new level.

My field is Humanities. What the hell would I know about paediatrics? One of the first things I tell my undergraduates is that the Humanities do raid others' disciplines and blend it into the ephemeral melting-pot known as 'theory'. But we do have to stay within our remit. The sciences are well outside what we are competent to do.

Until very, very recently this shit would have got any academic totally discredited. Claiming an expertise you don't own is about as big a no-no as plagiarism.

I'm also ashamed to say I know more than one of the names cited above. Not just heard of them within the course of research, or seeing names cited, I know them.

Words fail me.

I posted a longer post on the Letter from Academics thread but I will repost this point:

Also, even though I am an arts grad, I am capable of learning and understanding at least the basics of bias in research, methodology and quality of research to a point where I know where something is utter bullshit. And I wouldn't go around questioning the methodology of Hilary Cass because she clearly knows what she's doing because I understand that!

Studying media and history also goes into a lot about understanding the quality of sources and bias. It does it in a different way but it is very much about understanding people with differing views and where this might be problematic to your understanding. It covers politics and propaganda in examining sources.

For supposedly clever people, even in completely unrelated fields, they are undeniably academically illiterate. Some of them are historians and media specialists and they aren't applying any level of quality analysis that I would expect even from those fields using the methodology applicable to those fields.

So yes, even though you are a humanities lecturer, I STILL would expect you to understand some of the issues with bias and sources because that would likely STILL be highly relevant to your field.

Some of this bunch are failing to even meet that standard where they clearly have degrees whether those skills would be essential to their study.

This is a basic level skill. I didn't do GCSE History. I wanted to do it at A Level which was highly discouraged as a rule at my school, but they allowed me to do it because GCSE History at the time wasn't about historical knowledge building it was more about developing the skill set of critically analysising sources and talking about reliability and bias. I was allowed to do A Level History because I'd done GCSE Media Studies which essentially was doing the same thing in a different manner.

These jokers aren't passing the GCSE History and Media Studies test. They can write good word salad and probably have great fact recollation skills but they ARE failing at some of the most basic skills in Humanities subjects.

TheClogLady · 15/04/2024 10:07

Turns out you can’t use three asterisks on MN, it just makes the middle asterisk bold 😁