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JKR vs Police Scotland?

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IcakethereforeIam · 10/03/2024 22:02

Tras are trying to get JKR arrested.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/10/trans-activists-scottish-police-arrest-jk-rowling-crime/

https://archive.ph/5TEU4 highland fling yourself over the paywall, cos Scottish!

Thought to give IW a break.

The Hate Crime...crime(?) comes into force on 1st April, according to the article. The SNP has not engaged with any of the organisations who have expressed concerns and no-one knows what, if any, training the Police have been given.

Trans activists urge Scottish police to arrest JK Rowling over ‘misgendering hate crime’

Northumbria Police last week dismissed a complaint against the author over calling India Willoughby, a transgender TV personality, a male

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/10/trans-activists-scottish-police-arrest-jk-rowling-crime

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IcakethereforeIam · 22/03/2024 19:37

Just read this

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/22/jk-rowling-police-scotland-gender-trans/

https://archive.ph/97PHD scraping through the bottom of the barrel paywall

Well any scrap of confidence that I had in Police Scotland has completely gone down the toilet. Do they truly believe that's how GC women progress our arguments? One moment we're making common sense, widely understood statements before abruptly segueing into gas chambers! Fuckwits. I think Police Scotland need to see that video about the hate monster, it's probably wearing their uniform.

Trans-hating ‘parody of JK Rowling’ was created by Police Scotland officers

Doubts raised over force’s ability to enforce the law after staff invent veiled version of gender-critical author for inclusivity exercise

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/22/jk-rowling-police-scotland-gender-trans

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maltravers · 22/03/2024 19:49

Hmm. Police Scotland apparently said that “These scenarios were written by officers at Police Scotland based on their expertise”. I’d like to know how many times they have seen GC women campaigners saying trans people should be sent to the gas ovens. There may be some incels with penises that say this, but GC women? I think not. Let’s see your evidence Police Scotland given your vast apparent expertise on which this is based.

BezMills · 22/03/2024 19:55

🎶
That stood against them
Thon India Willoboaby
And sent them aff tae fuck
Cos them's a roaster

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2024 20:05

You know what matters is not that a specific phrase or word or view is deemed unsayable but that the current discussion is on 'what can we say' and 'what can't we say'. There seems to be a tacit implication that there are some thoughts it's beyond the pale to think, or voice, and we're discussing the fine points of where that line should be, and I don't recall us ever having that conversation, as a nation.

This is not Mao's China and we are protected by the UNDHR, our freedom to think and speak is protected. We can't have that freedom chopped up into tiny pieces and replaced with approved attitudes.

WallaceinAnderland · 22/03/2024 20:06

This homophobic tweet could be reported if IW lived in Scotland

'Vichy gay'

'internationally-recognised anti-trans hate group LGB Alliance'

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1771222629057261681

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1771222629057261681

Froodwithatowel · 22/03/2024 20:09
Me Me Me Fainting GIF by Archie Comics

Report! Call the police!

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2024 20:11

WallaceinAnderland · 22/03/2024 20:06

This homophobic tweet could be reported if IW lived in Scotland

'Vichy gay'

'internationally-recognised anti-trans hate group LGB Alliance'

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1771222629057261681

I'd have to wade through the guidance again but there may be scope for reporting tweets from people outwith Scotland.

BezMills · 22/03/2024 20:13

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2024 20:05

You know what matters is not that a specific phrase or word or view is deemed unsayable but that the current discussion is on 'what can we say' and 'what can't we say'. There seems to be a tacit implication that there are some thoughts it's beyond the pale to think, or voice, and we're discussing the fine points of where that line should be, and I don't recall us ever having that conversation, as a nation.

This is not Mao's China and we are protected by the UNDHR, our freedom to think and speak is protected. We can't have that freedom chopped up into tiny pieces and replaced with approved attitudes.

So true. If telling someone they're a pure prick is now a hate crime, Barlinnie is about five millon beds short

BezMills · 22/03/2024 20:14

In my opinion, India Willoboaby is a pure prick. Byraway.

Snowypeaks · 22/03/2024 20:14

maltravers · 22/03/2024 19:49

Hmm. Police Scotland apparently said that “These scenarios were written by officers at Police Scotland based on their expertise”. I’d like to know how many times they have seen GC women campaigners saying trans people should be sent to the gas ovens. There may be some incels with penises that say this, but GC women? I think not. Let’s see your evidence Police Scotland given your vast apparent expertise on which this is based.

They will be justifying it to themselves on the basis of Helen Joyce's comment on the Wine With Women podcast 1 or 2 years ago. She said something like "in a sane world" there would be were fewer trans people - meaning fewer people in physical and psychological pain, undergoing unnecessary surgical procedures, dependent on drugs for life, etc. This remark was taken out of context and twisted to mean that she was calling for genocide. Some TRAs use it cynically, others actually believe that was what she meant. So out-of-context comment made by one intelligent GC woman attributed in intent to another in an amalgam of made-up bogey women.

Froodwithatowel · 22/03/2024 20:20

It's an ongoing issue with having a conversation with someone living in an alternative reality based on selective facts.

Datun · 22/03/2024 20:22

Snowypeaks · 22/03/2024 20:14

They will be justifying it to themselves on the basis of Helen Joyce's comment on the Wine With Women podcast 1 or 2 years ago. She said something like "in a sane world" there would be were fewer trans people - meaning fewer people in physical and psychological pain, undergoing unnecessary surgical procedures, dependent on drugs for life, etc. This remark was taken out of context and twisted to mean that she was calling for genocide. Some TRAs use it cynically, others actually believe that was what she meant. So out-of-context comment made by one intelligent GC woman attributed in intent to another in an amalgam of made-up bogey women.

That's the shed load of manipulatory, contradictory bollocks right there.

Being trans is awful, you're vulnerable, you're fragile, you need umpteen (free) medical interventions, you're suicidal, but wanting less of that?

FUCKING BIGOT!!

WallaceinAnderland · 22/03/2024 20:23

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2024 20:11

I'd have to wade through the guidance again but there may be scope for reporting tweets from people outwith Scotland.

Why bother. Report anyway and let the police tell us if it's valid or not. Let them do the work since they are so keen.

Datun · 22/03/2024 20:26

Why bother. Report anyway and let the police tell us if it's valid or not. Let them do the work since they are so keen.

quite.

Let's have reams of complaints, with details, exactly what was said, what wasn't said, why it's insulting, your entire life history and, at the very end, say where you live.

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 20:28

WallaceinAnderland · 21/03/2024 21:49

IW is still rattling around on X claiming that JKR committed a crime.

The law is on my side. It’s the police who are scared to enforce it - because they don’t want the Home Secretary and Britain’s Right Wing media barking at them. If JKR had made equivalent insults about Black or Jewish people, she’d absolutely be prosecuted. But trans don’t count.

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1770420366147567770

Spongebob Squarepants Worlds Smallest Violin GIF

Poor li'l India . . . my heart bleeds . . . bleeds, I tell you . . .

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 20:31

WallaceinAnderland · 21/03/2024 23:41

Disinformation being spread about Hate Crime Act, First Minister claims

He [Humza Yousaf] added that the freedom to criticise, insult and offend “exists and should be treasured”, while he added that he had “full confidence” in police to look beyond “vexatious” claims.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/disinformation-being-spread-about-hate-crime-act-first-minister-claims/ar-BB1khUkZ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=f57c469c83484377affa39db7a1b590a&ei=12

Well now I'm really confused Hmm

Well, he's got more confidence in the Long Arm of the Law than I have

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 20:38

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2024 07:35

It really is ironic that these cry bullies don't seem to have understood the premise of the Harry Potter stories, which is being bullied and overcoming that with intelligence and dignity.

Drag Queen GIF

See - they failed at the "intelligence" part - and don't get me started on "dignity". . . . 😦😬

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 20:46

Fruityful · 22/03/2024 18:29

Now I have a mental image of a big protest march of people through Glasgow with everybody singing: "If a woman has a willy she's a man...🎶"

I mean, when I say India Willoughby is a man, is Scotland going to try and extradite me? I'd better start warming up my singing voice... "He can tuck it to conceal it / Let it dangle and reveal it / But if a woman has a penis she's a man."

Banned song in Scotland when?

😂

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 20:48

Datun · 22/03/2024 20:26

Why bother. Report anyway and let the police tell us if it's valid or not. Let them do the work since they are so keen.

quite.

Let's have reams of complaints, with details, exactly what was said, what wasn't said, why it's insulting, your entire life history and, at the very end, say where you live.

Anddon't forget to mention "they" looked at you funny.

Waitwhat23 · 22/03/2024 20:51

Some of these fabulous banners could be reused on the march

JKR vs Police Scotland?
JKR vs Police Scotland?
JKR vs Police Scotland?
Waitwhat23 · 22/03/2024 20:52

This one too

JKR vs Police Scotland?
Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2024 21:05

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 20:28

Poor li'l India . . . my heart bleeds . . . bleeds, I tell you . . .

Sad Broken Heart GIF by Mighty Oak

Want a plaster?

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 21:07

Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2024 21:05

Want a plaster?

<sniffs back a tear>

Thank you. . . . . I'll . . . I'll be fine . . . eventually . . .

I expect,

Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2024 21:10

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 21:07

<sniffs back a tear>

Thank you. . . . . I'll . . . I'll be fine . . . eventually . . .

I expect,

GIF by British Heart Foundation

I'm sure you'll be fine and be up and bouncing in no time! (I'm the one in green waiting to catch you if you fall!)

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/03/2024 21:14

What would I do without all of you wonderful terfy vipers! 💕

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