JKR vs Police Scotland?

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Tras are trying to get JKR arrested.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/10/trans-activists-scottish-police-arrest-jk-rowling-crime/

https://archive.ph/5TEU4 highland fling yourself over the paywall, cos Scottish!

Thought to give IW a break.

The Hate Crime...crime(?) comes into force on 1st April, according to the article. The SNP has not engaged with any of the organisations who have expressed concerns and no-one knows what, if any, training the Police have been given.

There was an accusation that all of the Trans theory and knowledge in the world at that time was burned by the Nazis. Quite why it was all in Germany is not explained but the only logical explanation I can think of would be that it was all created at the time of the Nazis.
All of the book burnings of the Nazis - all trans books.
To deny this = Holocaust denial.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, there might have been bad stuff involving Jews...........

I am no expert on this kind of thing, but didn't they have copyright libraries and academic journals in the 1930s? Any research and clinical case studies which had been peer reviewed and published would have been in other academic libraries, not just the Hirschfeld Institute library and files.

I have read that Erwin Gohrbandt was one of Lili Elbe's sugeons. IIRC Erwin later worked at Dachau and was involved in the Hypothermia experiments.

I am no historian but as a scientist was always aware (of rumours?) that nazi Germany took they opportunity to do a lot of scientific and medical research without troubling themselves with minor things like ethics, research proposals etc.

i was told that there was a lot of “research”’done in concentration camps that was completely unethical but also very valuable, and I knew several senior scientist who lamented that the research would never be published.

for example - modern treatment of drownings and near drownings “you’re not dead until you’re warm and dead” comes from experiments done at dachau (I think) where prisoners were submerged then resuscitated to see how long it took to actually kill them.

so while peer reviews etc may have existed, much wasn’t published.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g thanks for that summary.

The TRAs are getting desperate so they're really scraping the barrel.

They know that JKR will not stop and has opened the floodgates for calling out the extreme trans activists for what they are = men's rights activist. She is leading the way for telling the truth about the impact on this and for other women to be able to use the correct sex language for these men. She knows that this is a critical point with the Scottish Hate laws coming in on the 4th April and the fact that the UK Labour party has hinted that it will make correctly sexing a man a man a hate crime, so the timing is imo deliberate. She is too intelligent for it be anything other than deliberate.

So they now need to try to discredit and this is what they've come up with. The followers of the ideology will just blindly go along with it as they have done all of the other lies that trans activism is based upon.

She is tough, she will get through this.

Iain MacWhirter in the Spectator

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-scandal-of-scotlands-illiberal-hate-crime-law/

💯

Again, I think he's missed the 'stirring up hate' offence. A new crime that covers 'any act'.

The existing hate crime laws have the non crime hate incidents and yes these are very flawed. But the 'stirring up hate' is imo even more dangerous.

TBH while feminists will inevitably be targets, these laws are as dangerous and awful for absolutely every citizen of Scotland. We'd best all get used to getting hauled off for questions. Because any numpty with a grudge, any mischievous teenager, anyone with a persecution complex, any abuser, any gossip, any drunk prankster, any American online troll, any Russian political agitator, will be delighting in the ability to report anonymously.

I mean, the Stasi at least didn't have anonymous online reporting.

And, unfortunately, we now know that regulators and employers are willing to suspend people on specious grounds and also suspend people who don't want to suspend people on specious grounds. (Rachel Meade and her colleagues.)

Recent cases might make them less willing to do this, but it's still a brave woman who would take that risk.

I have no greater expectations of Social Work England than I do of the Police for using commonsense in the matter, given their stance at the last hearing and the fact it was only necessary because they wouldn't negotiate a settlement (I'm interpreting). (It was SWE that didn't put up a witness for Rachel Meade's remedy hearing earlier this year. And they mealy-mouthed the statement about RM's win.)

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4981154-rachel-meade-its-a-win?reply=132971599&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share&utm_source=copylink

Room for a little one?...

Can you budge up a tadge more? (my bottom is larger than I think it is)

Opens a packet of NORMAL ready salted walkers.

(Scrunches face at the ridge cut abominations).

Stonewall includes cross-dressers in the definition of trans. Lots of German in the armed forces in WWII were enthusiastic cross-dressers - someone's written a book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soldier-Studies-Cross-Dressing-Martin-Dammann/dp/3775744835

Included in their number were many prominent in the Nazi Party, including, I recall reading, one of Hitler's closest advisers, I can't remember which. Possibly the fat one - Himmler?

<shuffles along>

<ignores the DELIBERATE PROVOCATION because is a GROWN-UP and ABOVE SUCH THINGS>

<and anyway all the ridge cut ones are finished, and even an ordinary one will do when you're cadging them>

Göring.

He was the fat one and he really, really liked dressing up.

Himmler was the weedy one with no chin and glasses.

That's exactly what 'identifying as' the opposite sex is, though. It is a performance of gender; a character study.

If you 'identify as' something it suggests that you are not actually that thing - because if you were that thing you would not need to 'identify as' it.

The whole point of Queer Theory was to subvert norms, by playing around with and performing 'gender'. Gender is a superficial presentation; the outer manifestation of an artefact - which is then fetishised. Those learned or mimicked outward gestures and poses and mannerisms become a stand in for, and a representation of, the actual thing.

Fetishes become obsessive - so the person's whole existence is dedicated to, and revolves around, the performance.

Thank you. There is something about someone else's crisps.

<ponders if this is an insight into anything else. Decides it's different when it's freely given>

<takes proffered crisp>

I've heard it posited that Hirschfield's institute was burned to spare the blushes of high ranking nazis.

That wouldn't surprise me. (The speculation about the burning of the institute, that is. Free crisps always being acceptable whether ordinary, ridge cut, square or even <small shudder> oven baked to reduce calories - well that's a given. Any flavour is also acceptable*)

*Except prawn cocktail, obviously

Edited for clarity - not sure if it's worked

I don't really like crisps.

I suppose you all despise me and are looking down on me now?

No, more for everyone else.

Peanut?

No, Sinner - you are more to be pitied than censured.

<ratches through cupboard>

<emerges triumphant, waving small bag>

D'ye like pork scratchings?

Not at all me old mucka. Moar cripps for me.

Peanuts, you say? Now you're talking!

I might have some twiglets too.