JKR vs IW

[ZeldaFighter]

Are we going to talk about this? I think JKR was feeling a bit grumpy today 😀

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jk-rowling-india-willoughby-twitter-gender-b2507309.html

I am a bit worried that "naice" people will think JKR is being horrid.

Apparently 100% not satire.

Perhaps we need one for "Make cosplaying as a woman a hate crime"?

<Vast amounts of hyperbolic assertion of how people not doing exactly what you say and enacting a fiction for you is hate and disrespect and Other Things Too>

<Total bypassing of how this compels speech, beliefs, rejects other people's identities, feelings and perceptions, and is madly coercively controlling, but this apparently is definitely not hate, and is absolutely right and normal. Cos service humans, and what else are they for?>

I think that happened in Allison's, too.

All the ones I've personally watched online. It tends to be "non binary" pronouns that trip people up.

RMW at around 2:50:30 (scroll to near end)
https://www.youtube.com/live/UewrIagFXHk?si=c2cKWOtoq_Mzsvbd

Jfc

Imagine women had such power to define what people called them in society? Just think of all the delicious hate crime prosecutions for being called : love, girl, Bobby's Mum, Mrs John Smith, etc let alone all the unwelcome shit that gets shouted at us in the street.

As an aside, men have been telling us for DECADES that "guys" is a gender neutral term. Such a relief we can use that term for anyone without fear.

Thanks for the RMW timing. Will watch.

This is Sophie Sparkles according to Glinner, the author of the petition. I'm still naive after all these years, assumed it was some young impressionable girl.

With direct timestamp:

Ah Glinner, Priceless

Riding crop and a.....clothes peg(!), classy. Sophie seems to like being hurt and humiliated. If misgendering was so painful you'd think Sophie would be all over it.

Is Sophie Sparkles the partner of some other MTF TRA?

I hope it's someone calling themselves Terry Tinsel.

So IW has been calling an NB couple Mole and Badger. Does that make IW Toad of Toad Hall?

Parp, parp!

Heather Herbert

Is it just me who finds it extremely funny that Fox and Owl were offended at being called Badger and Mole? It's not as if Fox and Owl are sensible names to start with.

There's a few minutes of the Rev Bernard Randall at 2.24, the guy who was referred to prevent and, eventually sacked, for a sermon in which he said you didn't have to go along with LGBT beliefs if you didn't want to. It just cuts off after a few minutes. I never watch GBNews, it seems a bit all over the place.

@BeckyAMumsnet
I think most of us here use pronouns to describe sex, not gender. We can't be misgendering if we are not even talking about someone's gender. Why should we be punished for continuing to use the language that we always have, just because some people have decided to attribute different meanings to those words?

If a group of people suddenly decide that the word shoe actually now means hat, the people that say someone is wearing a hat on their head can't be in the wrong for not saying that someone has a shoe on their head. The shoe believers may really, really want people to call it a shoe, and think that they are being attacked if people say hat but that doesn't amount to harassment.

In FWR (and the wider world) the vast majority are hat people and you are making us say shoe. Let the shoe people say shoe on their sites and let us be truthful.

The word shoe now looks so wrong as I have written it so many times .

RMW underwhelming in RMW's legal observations on GB tv. Wibble wibble about the workplace and other ishoos. Hardly endorsing IW's fantastical claim.

I quite like that woman presenting with the potato man. She's quite sharp.

Heather Herbert

😬

No it's not don't make me approve of an India Willoughby comment!

@TWETMIRF ok, you've made your point. Now Shoo, shoe, shoe 😁

I was quite pleasantly surprised that RMW was pretty much saying that it’s a high bar to prove any of this shit to be worthy of police action. It’s not in a workplace, which would be a different matter.

twitting about hawking for attention, it kind of is IW workplace these days. Pay is a bit meh but no skin off my nose

Yeah, you’d think if Willoughby was that upset about Twitter stuff that Willoughby would just delete Willoughby’s Twitter account.

I remember there being a bit of a flounce a few months ago, but that didn't last more than a few hours.

I’d hate to think how many hours a day Willoughby spends on Twitter. Must be a full time job these days.