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RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/03/2024 13:44

I am so much looking forward to JKR's response to being told off by the judge for misgendering IW. I hope she points out that perjury is frowned upon in most courts worldwide.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 13:53

And as for the Toothfairy, she may not be a vet but she knows what a canine is.

Grin Wine

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/03/2024 14:12

@MishyJDI
Is anyone from the side of rationality also going to be on GB news?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 14:14

Who is the presenter at that time?

SoupDragonsFriend · 07/03/2024 14:15

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/03/2024 11:24

Agree.

As a retired SaLT I can confirm this.

I just love the fact that when random specialist knowledge is required, a woman on here pops up with the relevant expertise and/or qualifications.😁

Not0nlyButAlso · 07/03/2024 14:20

This is going to be a doozie

Hmmm, Mish, what can you mean. I envision RMW getting the law badly wrong on national tellie, but that is just me wildly extrapolating from other things. Like chapters of books etc.

But you are suggesting "doozie"-ness and popcorn. What's made you all gleeful I wonder.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 14:28

Tom Harwood is a potato.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/03/2024 14:43

They've got Maya on ! Grin

Lion400 · 07/03/2024 14:48

Urgh!

No idea who this is but he’s a turgid little weasel 🤢

JKR vs IW
Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 14:50

IcakethereforeIam · 07/03/2024 12:15

Earwigs, I'll have you know, are excellent mothers!

And as for the Toothfairy, she may not be a vet but she knows what a canine is.

😂😂well played.

SoupDragonsFriend · 07/03/2024 14:54

SoupDragonsFriend · 07/03/2024 14:15

I just love the fact that when random specialist knowledge is required, a woman on here pops up with the relevant expertise and/or qualifications.😁

I've just reread my comment and realise that it could sound sarcastic which is wasn't meant to be. It was genuinely appreciative!!!

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/03/2024 15:02

Maya was magnificent.
Even RMW has acknowledged (in a circuitous fashion) that India isn't going to get anywhere with this.
Male presenter is woke, uninformed idiot. Female presenter more informed and disagrees with him.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 15:06

Is there a video of Robin?

mirax · 07/03/2024 15:14

I was watching this clown show on X last night and nearly woke up the neighbours with my laughter. It was magnificent to see Willoughby and Byline TV, that dodgy af channel tottering under the wave of mockery and derision X users sent their way. You are magnificent, you awful brilliant and funny witches of Terf Island.

Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 15:22

What did RMW say?

Hepwo · 07/03/2024 15:35

Oh no!

Willoughby has been rude about non binarys too.

JKR vs IW
Emotionalsupportviper · 07/03/2024 15:36

HootyMcBooby · 07/03/2024 13:24

Everyone messes up with their pronouns in compelled speech because their mind and brain are screaming at them that they are uttering untruths. Their lips are trying desperately to say the truth while their brains are telling them to comply.

"You are a slow learner, Winston."
"How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”

“In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense." (George Orwell 1984)

Everyone messes up with their pronouns in compelled speech because their mind and brain are screaming at them that they are uttering untruths.

Stroop Effect in action

Mollyollydolly · 07/03/2024 15:41

I think Tom and India have a lot in common.

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/03/2024 15:41

SoupDragonsFriend · 07/03/2024 14:54

I've just reread my comment and realise that it could sound sarcastic which is wasn't meant to be. It was genuinely appreciative!!!

I took it as one - thank you.

(I'm not one to look for trouble unnecessarily).

And you are right - there crewmen on here with all sorts of knowledge - some of it very esoteric. I've learned a lot about a very wide variety of subjects since joining MN* (and had a few good laughs as well).

*There was a thread on crows that was fabulous!

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/03/2024 15:42

mirax · 07/03/2024 15:14

I was watching this clown show on X last night and nearly woke up the neighbours with my laughter. It was magnificent to see Willoughby and Byline TV, that dodgy af channel tottering under the wave of mockery and derision X users sent their way. You are magnificent, you awful brilliant and funny witches of Terf Island.

Any accidental misgendering?

RoyalCorgi · 07/03/2024 15:58

Remember all the court cases where the fully signed up, drunk the kool aid, total believers in gender ideology couldn't keep their pronouns straight? Denise Fahmy's trial, Rachel Meade's, Jo Phoenix's?

Wasn't it Maya's tribunal where she had to correct the other side's barrister when they misgendered one of their own staff? Glorious moment.

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/03/2024 15:59

RoyalCorgi · 07/03/2024 15:58

Remember all the court cases where the fully signed up, drunk the kool aid, total believers in gender ideology couldn't keep their pronouns straight? Denise Fahmy's trial, Rachel Meade's, Jo Phoenix's?

Wasn't it Maya's tribunal where she had to correct the other side's barrister when they misgendered one of their own staff? Glorious moment.

I think that happened in Allison's, too.

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2024 16:01

Bwhahahahahaha!

JKR vs IW
ArabellaScott · 07/03/2024 16:02

Text:

'We call on the UK government to make it a hate crime for a person to deliberately and wilfully misgender any individual.
Deliberately misgendering someone Is a form of transphobic hate. It undermines a person's gender identity which in turn harms the person being deliberately misgendered. A person's gender identity plays a massive part in how a person sees themselves and how others perceive them. Misgendering someone on purpose only serves to rob an individual of a large part of their identity. Due to the mental suffering this inflicts onto the person being targeted it is clear that deliberately misgendering someone is a form of abuse and should be treated as such.
What counts as deliberate misgendering?
Deliberate misgendering is when a person who knows someones correct pronouns repeatedly and continually uses incorrect pronouns when referring to them. The definition includes the deliberate incorrect use of gender based salutations like (but not limited to)"Sir", "Ma'am", "mate", "lady" and the terms trans identified male (TIM) and autogynephilia (AGP).
There should be no excuse for transphobic abuse in our society. Everyone deserves to be respected and treated with dignity. Trans, non binary and gender non conforming people are all too often the victim of deliberate misgendering and this needs to stop.
The UK government must not allow hate to thrive and deliberate misgendering must be viewed as a form of hate motivated abuse.
Please sign this petition to tell the UK government that it's not okay to allow transphobic hate to thrive and flourish.'

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate ...

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