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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again

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DayAndAge · 27/02/2024 08:20

How the metro can put out this tweet which effectively suggests a woman shouldn't be allowed to speak is beyond me. Shocked but not surprised. Comments are heartening though, as is the ratio.

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
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ErrolTheDragon · 27/02/2024 14:18

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 27/02/2024 14:06

How dare you put this thread in 'Feminism'. This is not a feminist issue, it is not our crime.

Are you being ironic or deliberately obtuse? Sorry, I can't tell. Confused

Yirk · 27/02/2024 14:23

It was obvious which side of the fence Vine sat, he referred constantly to Blake as she !!
Just adding to the untruths dished out by medias

learieonthewildmoor · 27/02/2024 14:30

I’m so glad there is loud discussion of this issue. Here in Australia we get nothing. After the case of the axe wielding transwoman in the 7-11 papers stopped identifying people undergoing trial as trans.
There was a case where very young transwoman murdered a young man after meeting on Tinder. The transwoman’s defence was the psychological confusion caused by dysphoria, which was reported in very roundabout ways. It was all very confusing until the papers published a photo.
Keep fighting this.

AliceAforethought · 27/02/2024 14:33

Wow. Not an enormous fan of JKRs writing (it's OK) but as a woman... she's amazing. She's unwaveringly brave, consistent and uncowed by all the bashing. Brava, JK!

Froodwithatowel · 27/02/2024 14:34

Yirk · 27/02/2024 14:23

It was obvious which side of the fence Vine sat, he referred constantly to Blake as she !!
Just adding to the untruths dished out by medias

And it's there that you spot the self serving virtue signalling.

"Look at me! I'm so lovely a person that I will even lie about this mad psychopath of a bloke! without anything further than oooh arent I lovely managing to spark any communications between brain cells."

DadJoke · 27/02/2024 14:38

JKR objects to woman being called a woman is not a headline.

JKR things all trans women are men and should be referred to as such is what her point is, and what people are objecting to.

viques · 27/02/2024 14:42

Tiddlywinkly · 27/02/2024 09:45

It's also not bad as an emergency umbrella.

If you are packing up to move house it is easy to pick up a heap of unwanted metro at tube stations to use as wrapping for vases and breakable crockery.

SinnerBoy · 27/02/2024 14:43

She doesn't think that, she knows it.

How about the vile headline and tweet about her? Or the old cartoon of a woman being tortured?

SloaneStreetVandal · 27/02/2024 14:46

He's a man. He's been put in a men's prison. Duh. He should have been referred to as a man throughout.

There can't be any more stark an example of how deranged this utter bullshit has become when, in an article about JK Rowling and an animal torturing murderer, JK Rowling is the villain.

Saladpops · 27/02/2024 14:46

If a murderer identifies as a dog should they be put down?

ErrolTheDragon · 27/02/2024 14:47

DadJoke · 27/02/2024 14:38

JKR objects to woman being called a woman is not a headline.

JKR things all trans women are men and should be referred to as such is what her point is, and what people are objecting to.

JKR objects to woman being called a woman is not a headline.
Well, it wouldn't be as she'd never do such a thing

JKR things all trans women are men and should be referred to as such is what her point is, and what people are objecting to.

Jkr knows all transwomen are males, can therefore never be a 'woman'. Her saying that clearly is what people (rather than journos looking for a cheap 'story') are applauding.
I doubt she'd insist on all transwomen being called 'men' - so long as it's clear that they're males. That's what people are objecting to, the obfuscation with resulting confusion and this crime being touted as an example of 'women do it to'.

viques · 27/02/2024 14:49

ErrolTheDragon · 27/02/2024 13:14

Nah, I don't think woman-silencing misogyny ever went away.

They bloody hate that they can't cancel Rowling!

I expect there are more than a few relishing the news that the Taliban are restricting women’s access to mobile phones and the internet.

“‘ast seen news gaffer? Them Taliban lads’ve come up with a right good wheeze to shut they wimmin oop.”

Datun · 27/02/2024 14:50

I can practically feel the momentum of this issue picking up speed, it's vibrating under my very feet.

Criticising a woman for daring to identify a sick fuck of a man, as a man, is so the opposite of reading the room, I'm almost chuckling.

All helped along by the more bonkers transactactivists like Willoughby urging him into a woman's prison.

AND mumsnet being highlighted as practically taking the prize for the right side of history.

I'm loving the timing of JKR's interventions, too. She nails it every time.

SloaneStreetVandal · 27/02/2024 14:56

Saladpops · 27/02/2024 14:46

If a murderer identifies as a dog should they be put down?

He identifies as a cat, as well as a woman. Apparently he miaows. I'm at an entire loss as to why anyone within a community would want to claim him as one of their own.

SidewaysOtter · 27/02/2024 14:58

And yet again, this is what happens when you put the 20-something intern with all the intellectual nuance of a bollard in charge of the "socials" on the grounds that they know how to work Twitter.

The timescales look very much like the grown-ups got in, made a coffee, opened their email and went "WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE?"

DialSquare · 27/02/2024 15:00

I can practically feel the momentum of this issue picking up speed, it's vibrating under my very feet.

I feel it too. Like another shift.

DuesToTheDirt · 27/02/2024 15:02

Wow, I saw this tweet on some other thread and thought it was from some random TRA or incel. Didn't spot that it was actually by someone representing a newspaper Shock.

Pirelli · 27/02/2024 15:02

RebelliousCow · 27/02/2024 09:33

I'd really like for someone to ask Lisa Nandy her perspective on the situation. She is just one of the Labour MPs who declared that TWAW and that they should be housed in a prison of their choice, according to how they "identify".

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If Lisa Nandy believes that TWAW then she's dumber than I thought. Quite apart from anything else, TWAW is such a dreadful tautology. The statement itself makes no sense whatsoever because it's circular. If a TW is a W, then TW = W, so what Lisa Nandy is effectively stating is that W = W, which equals W. Which renders the TWAW statement totally unnecessary.

Helleofabore · 27/02/2024 15:07

DadJoke · 27/02/2024 14:38

JKR objects to woman being called a woman is not a headline.

JKR things all trans women are men and should be referred to as such is what her point is, and what people are objecting to.

No. Joanne Rowling doesn’t object to a woman being called a woman.

But only a misogynist would also frame her objection so dishonestly because her objection doesn’t fit the misogynist’s philosophical belief. Why is it misogynistic? Because it is misogynistic to claim that this murderer should ever have been reported as a ‘woman’. This is not a woman’s crime and dishonest reporting of this leads people to believe female people are at increased risk of committing such crimes.

That is misogynistic.

SomeCatFromJapan · 27/02/2024 15:11

JKR things all trans women are men and should be referred to as such is what her point is, and what people are objecting to.

And the problem with that is what exactly?

Not that I think she's stated it in so many words but if she did she wouldn't be wrong, would she?

Pirelli · 27/02/2024 15:20

All trans women are men though. I don't get why people get confused and think TWAW?! Am I in the twilight zone, or have people suddenly become very, very stupid and don't understand what words mean?!

wincarwoo · 27/02/2024 15:24

@pirelli a very small number of people have convinced a lot of other people that words now have different meanings.

RebelliousCow · 27/02/2024 15:25

DadJoke · 27/02/2024 14:38

JKR objects to woman being called a woman is not a headline.

JKR things all trans women are men and should be referred to as such is what her point is, and what people are objecting to.

You have to be male to be a TW -by definition. A TW is a male who 'identifes' 'as' a woman. If you are already something you do not need to identify 'as' it.

It is impossible to change sex - no matter what body modifications one goes through; and don't forget that many trans -identified people don't do any body modifications at all - except grow their hair and wearing clothing stereotypical of the opposite sex.

But you know this already. Wanting to believe something is true - doesn't make it so.

DuesToTheDirt · 27/02/2024 15:27

Pirelli · 27/02/2024 15:20

All trans women are men though. I don't get why people get confused and think TWAW?! Am I in the twilight zone, or have people suddenly become very, very stupid and don't understand what words mean?!

Words are being used to confuse us. You only have to look at the number of people who were misled into thinking Scarlet Blake is a woman. Calling him a "transwoman" isn't massively clearer to most of the public. This is deliberate, so now rape crisis centres, for instance, or gynecology clinics, can say they only employ women staff, or gyms can say that changing rooms are only for women, and no-one really knows what kind of "women" they are talking about.

Davidchecksall · 27/02/2024 15:27

FYI
"The Times" reported 'it' as she, with a vague reference to previous status and going to male nick.
So I have sent them a note hoping to be picked for the letters page.
I have also enquired of the Press Complaints organisation (a friend is there) about making a complaint about both Times and their reporting and Metro about their attack on JKR.

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