The Ladies pond again

[IcakethereforeIam]

Trying to have a vote to make it women only again

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/22/transgender-women-ban-kenwood-ladies-pond-hampstead-heath/

https://archive.ph/xbIsK paywall dodge

I'm not holding my breath.

Hang on, you said men.

Are you saying 'trans women' are men? That's transphobic.

And YES they are creepy when men decide to not use the men's pond, not use the mixed pond and insist on using the women's pond.

That's the very definition of creepy.

That is just vile bigotry.

Good men stay out so that bad men stand out.

I'm talking about two different issues.

One, you define trans women as men. I disagree, as I think sex and gender are different.

But you are claiming it is normal to be afraid in the presence of all men, including the trans women that you insist are men.

Whether it is a trans woman or a cis man, being automatically afraid is not healthy.

Do we agree that men, common or garden men, who wish to enter women and girls changing rooms are creepy?

If the answer to that is yes, then being logical, as transwomen are men, what is the outcome if transwomen are allowed into womens changing rooms?

Any man who wants to invade women only spaces is a creep.

Creeps tend to be creepy.

Because someone who lives as a woman using facilities designated as women's is not the same as a cis man using them. The reasons are so obvious I can't really be bothered to type them.

If you can't get your brain around the idea of people's identities being derived from anything other than their biology, that's your problem.

No they are not obvious. Please do type them so we can see your reasoning.

@PP82 how does one live as a woman?

I predict another 800 or so posts of posters trying to nail jelly to the wall, engaging in good faith, while this poster goes off on another epically tedious merail and demonstrates their complete lack of empathy. I'll pop back tomorrow and see how it went.

If someone’s identity relies on guesswork from the people they interact with, then yes we do have a problem.

Quite.

You wouldn't be able to guess my ethnic or religious background from looking at me. Is that a problem?

The idea that gender doesn't exist just because you don't like it is laughable.

It is literally normal (as in the majority response) to be uncomfortable and scared when confronted by an unknown man while undressed in a womans single sex space.
It would be abnormal not to feel this way.

But you know that.

Byeeee. Enjoy your Saturday!

I bet we’d be able to tell your sex just by looking at you

There is no such thing as 'gender' it does not exist. Its a made up suedo scientific mystical belief.

If gender exists and is easily describable please, describe it for us.
In case you’ve forgotten the question, who does one live as a woman?

If it is a cis man yes, as one would assume a shady motive.

Polls showed most women were fine with trans women using changing rooms until a few years ago when you lot started your malevolent hate campaign, 'captured' most of the right wing media and the current hard right government, and managed to persuade a chunk of the British public, many of whom are often hard of thinking anyway, that it was a problem.

Gosh, describing the majority of the British public as hard of thinking is rather condescending.

Trans women are men tho. Their male people, adult human males, ie men.

I'm going to enjoy your posts for the rest of the weekend I imagine. You reveal more about yourself every time you type.

“You lot” 🤣

When men stop assaulting, upskirting, stalking, raping and murdering women, then maybe your points might be able to be discussed.

But til then...the 'malevolent hate campaign' of trying to reduce the risk of males to women and girls thunders on.