Spain-woman sentenced to 6 months in prison after making 'transphobic' remarks towards male ex prostitute

[happydappy2]

https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1760315313822769281?s=20

She was also fined Eu3850 and disqualified from holding employment in any profession in the fields of teaching or sports for 3 & 1/2 years

Oh I don't know. I was just being flippant.

Until not that long ago I was travelling round the world, single and partying. I only relatively recently settled down, with a husband who is a good few years younger, and am just trying to start my family now. I'm at a stage of life people are more commonly at in their 30s.

Most of my friends were at this stage in their 30s, except for the friends I made in 'expat' communities, who like me are settling down later. However I doubt my friends who have a more conventional timeline would consider themselves middle aged either.

Of course. I don't give a shit about age. The poster who originally brought up the term middle aged did it to put me in my place, and I resisted.

Some people on these boards strike me as the type that were middle aged at 20.

Until not that long ago I was travelling round the world, single and partying. I only relatively recently settled down, with a husband who is a good few years younger, and am just trying to start my family now.

Yes, I did all that too. I only got together with my partner five years ago. He's also younger than me.

Yes, so you don't really fulfil the commonly understood definition of middle aged either. Yet you choose to identify as such, and I respect that, because respecting how people choose to identify is the decent thing to do. And so easy too!

Well I’m in my 50’s and still go to raves and house music festivals regularly - doesn’t stop me being middle aged though. How I choose to live my life doesn’t change the reality of my age

Middle aged means nothing more than being a certain age. You seem to be placing a lot of value judgements on a certain age. Very literal thinking.

You clearly do though. You have prejudices around it.

Yet you choose to identify as such, and I respect that, because respecting how people choose to identify is the decent thing to do. And so easy too!

It's easy in this case. Not so much when it affects other people's rights too. I don't mind whether or not you respect that I'm realistic about my age. I do mind that the push for "trans rights" favours the affectations and whims of a group of mostly entitled middle class men over more vulnerable women and children.

I think middle age looks great, and in 20 years, when I'm ready for it, I'm sure I'll enjoy it immensely.

What's the point of being alive if we can't be who we want, where we want, when we want?

To me, like gender, it's all just a state of mind.

Whereas I believe in reality and not gender or age denial.

Live your life how you choose but reality is fact

Placing value judgements isn't literal thinking. It's more usually the opposite.

It's not "all just a state of mind" though, is it? There are real and practical considerations connected with age. Like fertility. As you are well aware. And there is nothing wrong with being aware of that and realistic about that.

Edited to say: real and practical considerations particularly for women.

Reality has been contested since the dawn of time, and will be as long as there are still two sentient beings on this earth.

Your generation gave us raves and I thank you for it.

Perhaps there's a confidence that comes from not feeling I have to compensate, but I'm 40s & I describe myself as middle aged sometimes for a laugh and sometimes with utmost seriousness because my lovely mum died at much less than twice my age.

But I bet people who are into stereotypes, like a PP, couldn't guess much about my actual personality and life from that.

Sure, but I'm not talking about biology. I can get around the biology. Not everything is about biology.

Your age is absolutely about biology. It's counted from the day you are born.

This is beyond silly.

Isn't it.
Although not unexpected.

Middle aged is a number. It’s around the middle of an average life so I’d say it kicked in between 40 and 50.

I was old before my time, as are my DC.

I still didn’t hit middle aged til that number arrived!

You can have any outlook you like, and any lifestyle you like, but the numbers are numbers and don’t adjust accordingly!

Everything actually is about biology. Any one of us might die tomorrow. You are only here because a woman and a man came together in whatever sense, even when there is IVF involved. Every human alive is the product of that fusion of male and female gametes. That's before we look at other living things. There are only two sexes. Men don't ever have the bodily experiences common to the majority of female people.

Clearly biology doesn't matter until it matters.

Yes. My chronological age. But not which stage of life I'm in, or what that entails. 40 now is very different from 40 fifty years ago. 70 is VERY different. Things change, including how people live at different ages, how healthy they are, how they look, and what are the most common set of circumstances for someone of that age to be living in. It's not all determined by biology alone.

I quite agree. We can all carry on like we are 20 still but decide to start a family at 50 and you are going to find that, if you are a woman, biology doesn’t care how young you feel.

Enjoy life, do young people things but time and tide wait for no man.

Both age and sex are critical to fertility, @PP82. You can try to "get round it" if you are a privileged person with money. But that doesn't mean they are irrelevant.