Poor Emily being banned from cycling again

[Seainasive]

Cycling magazine a Canadian publication of course.

I caught a bit of the interview at work in a patients room and I had to snort that it is "violence against trans people"

When did the word violence change meaning? Violence means physical... well... violence, no? Violence doesn't mean disagreeing with someone by using biological facts that they don't like? Am I being violent towards a flat Earther when I state that the world is in fact, a spherical shape? Is debate now GBH? Arguing over what to have for dinner is assault?

Bridges expressed concerns about her safety if she were to compete alongside men

But, Emily ...* *

Anyway. Bring the court case! Please televise it! I will sponsor all the support animals needed!

Same time as women ceased to mean adult human female and became anyone who fancies it.

I will happily fund Emily if this does go to court. My motivation may not be the same as Emily's.

I think that meme started with LaVerne Cox of "Orange is the new black" (or whatever the name of the television programme was). It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

Just watched that interview - not sure that the dramatic hyperbole will be received with the normal fawning that these pieces seem to generate? But they did use some nice tinkly music at the end.

Tosser. Literally 🙄

I'll happily chuck a tenner in the crowdfunder. I'll make it £15 if the fox killer is running it.

So how many TW does Em think are competing in stealth in women's sports? I guess there could feasibly be a few very early transitioners. Still the risk of outing a few males is nothing compared to the wholesale ruination of women's sports.

You'll understand that I'm reaching here but you can blame Jo Phoenix vs OU for me hearing about zemiology (Avi Boukli was one of the OU witnesses, see list in OP https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?).

Zemiology would suggest that social harms that arise from state structures extend beyond the codifying of law to other areas. Zemiology originally presented itself as a critique of criminology and the notion that crime serves to focus on 'individual level harms', rather than acknowledging that potentially more injuries and harms result from the activities of states, corporations, or social structures.

Apparently, there's been quite the 'epistemological shift' (if I remember the tribunal discussion correctly) away from the restrictions of considering only criminology to what are now considered to be social harm studies. This makes zemiology a hot discipline and quite the opportunity to be a rising academic star as Boukli is. (And probably still is as there's no recording beyond Tribunal Tweets of Boukli's memorable cross examination by Ben Cooper).

So, back to Emily, who experiences not having personal needs satisfied as unsafe, a social harm, and structural violence. Because it's organisations and social structures that are the barrier. And the individual harms accrue to women but ceding to Emily would prevent more injuries and harms and be a greater contribution to social justice. Because…reasons.

That's all I've got. Zemiology. (And the usual.)

Given that a pregnant 18 year old could
now enter men's boxing, rugby or MMA, Bridges seems to have had quite the logic and common sense bypass.

Aww poor Bridges

What's next, calling up the ICC to report a trans genocide?

MTF, not FTM, surely?

An interesting and informative area of study distorted into "not giving me what I want is exactly the same as punching me in the face". A bit like intersectional theory.

So frustrating the interviewer did not pick up on Emily’s statement they would not be safe if they raced in the men’s category.

Why - what would the men do? Don’t you understand women feel unsafe with you racing in their category? In their changing rooms?

Who's a Fox killer? 😮

This ghastly prick

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/26/prominent-lawyer-jolyon-maugham-tweets-about-clubbing-a-fox-to-death

@Itscatsallthewaydown

Ah thank you, yes I remember that utter cunt.

Let’s face it, if the likes of LT and EB had continued to compete alongside other men nobody would have heard of them in the first place. It’s when they switch from the male to female categories that they out themselves. The feeling of unsafeness comes hand in hand with doing something so completely socially unacceptable that people are bound to start criticising you very harshly.

Zachily is simply trying to bully them's way back in, using emotional blackmail. The histrionics from they and Mum in the interview last year was a sight to behold, an entirely truth-free tantrum of a spoilt, selfish brat.

Mum said, "Follow the science," I'm not sure that she understands the meaning of science. Studies, as us lot know, show that transw retain an overwhelming physical advantage over women, even when they take testosterone suppressors and oestrogen.

They's arrogance is highly unedifying. In a court case, I wonder if them would speak for theyself, or leave it to a lawyer? Spouting counterfactual cack and getting pissy in a courtroom certainly wouldn't be helpful to they's case.

His mother sounds like a proper dollop.

They's arrogance is highly unedifying. In a court case, I wonder if them would speak for theyself, or leave it to a lawyer? Spouting counterfactual cack and getting pissy in a courtroom certainly wouldn't be helpful to they's case.

I suspect that many on this thread would pay good money to see that, in a very literal sense by chipping into Bridges's court fund.

Mrs Bridges seems like what in the performing arts is called a "stage mother".

Bridges’ mum flounced from Mn after not being able to handle discussing the studies in any mature and reasoned way. It all got too much that we kept rejecting her accusations of hate and phobia towards us and that we just wouldn’t stfu.