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Scarlet Blake trial - the thing that never happens....

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CousinGreg55 · 19/02/2024 16:13

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender/

There was a thread a couple of weeks about this case that got deleted. Obviously it's an ongoing trial but it's as we suspected with the defendent.

Murder-accused tells court parents did not accept her as transgender

Scarlet Blake, is on trial at Oxford Crown Court charged with the murder of Jorge Carreno who was found in Parsons Pleasure.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender

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ArabellaScott · 21/02/2024 07:01

Yes, Ashlynn is male. Scarlet claims Ashlynn's.sperm was on the jacket which Scarlet wore the night Jorges died.

CriticalCondition · 21/02/2024 08:39

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2024 07:01

Yes, Ashlynn is male. Scarlet claims Ashlynn's.sperm was on the jacket which Scarlet wore the night Jorges died.

Where was this reported? I haven't seen this in any of the mainstream media reports. This information must have come out in court. Why isn't it more widely reported?

Nor have I seen any photographs of Blake other than the one with the two prison officers and various stills taken from the video. Where have these photographs been published?

theilltemperedclavecinist · 21/02/2024 08:54

Propertylover · 21/02/2024 04:58

Why is the language used by the media different for a transman?

This case uses trans/transgender Paedophile/Paedo in the headlines. As Coral/Ryan Scott appears to have been born female. Why can’t they do the same for TW?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-paedo-who-preyed-child-32060922.amp

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13075525/amp/Transgender-paedophile-caught-three-vulnerable-children-locked-house-police-forced-door-sexually-assaulted-girl-14.html

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They also describe as a paedophile which is incorrect. Yes, I know, world's tiniest violin and all that. But still incorrect.

Propertylover · 21/02/2024 09:03

@theilltemperedclavecinist I think in this case the correct word is Hebephilia (ages11 to 14).

Ephebophillia (ages 15 to 19) is another category.

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2024 09:18

CriticalCondition · 21/02/2024 08:39

Where was this reported? I haven't seen this in any of the mainstream media reports. This information must have come out in court. Why isn't it more widely reported?

Nor have I seen any photographs of Blake other than the one with the two prison officers and various stills taken from the video. Where have these photographs been published?

This was reported in the Oxford Mail's live blog.

These have been posted every day, there's a lot of them:

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24128047.jorge-carreno-murder-trial-continues-day-eight/

RECAP: Murder-accused woman gives evidence in stand

The murder trial of Jorge Carreno continues this morning into day eight (February 19). Scarlet Blake, 26, of Crotch Crescent, Marston is on trial…

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24128047.jorge-carreno-murder-trial-continues-day-eight

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/02/2024 10:41

Yes, I recommend the Oxford Mail for comprehensive coverage. You can read all the live blogs of most of the previous days. At the moment they have just finished the case for the defence. Blake was the only witness. Blake gave evidence over two days during which time Blake being MTF was first revealed. Resuming at 12pm today.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/02/2024 10:43

That Reduxx article is grim. It has this 'Ashlynn' as a girlfriend though. I thought that person was another tw?

Yes, you are correct.

Chersfrozenface · 21/02/2024 10:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/02/2024 10:43

That Reduxx article is grim. It has this 'Ashlynn' as a girlfriend though. I thought that person was another tw?

Yes, you are correct.

I would also be very interested in knowing the biological sex of the person named as Evie Brockman and described as "Blake's new girlfriend" as the time of an incident in the US.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/02/2024 10:53

Yes, me too.

Cailleach1 · 21/02/2024 13:57

We’re all to pretend any of the characters being described as ‘she’ doesn’t smell off.

Someone has posted a video taken of the alleged murderer ‘Scarlet’ chatting to some police (I think). No fear I would mistake him for a woman. I seem to have superhuman abilities, though. We’re to believe that most people have no idea of what a woman is and would say ‘sorry, madam’ if they bumped into an empty chair.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/02/2024 14:10

It's in the Oxford Mail today (they are not live blogging for whatever reason).

Blake's original arrest video.

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24133635.oxford-crown-court-shown-video-murder-accused-arrest/

IcakethereforeIam · 21/02/2024 14:14

If Scarlet is found guilty, at least he'll go to a male prison. If the crime had been committed in Scotland, it's possible, as it didn't involve violence against a woman, he'd be assessed as not posing an 'unacceptable risk' and sent to a women's prison. Although as he's trans and the crime was committed before his 25th birthday, he'd possibly just get a slap on the wrist. Scotgov are also introducing, or have introduced, laws restricting any reporting on crimes committed by children, though I don't know the age cut off. Possibly, in Scotland, we'd know nothing about this crime.

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2024 14:54

The DM makes not a single reference to Scarlet being male in that article. Just 'woman', all the way through.

Chersfrozenface · 21/02/2024 14:57

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2024 14:54

The DM makes not a single reference to Scarlet being male in that article. Just 'woman', all the way through.

Are comments open?

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2024 14:59

No. Possibly sensible given it's a live court case.

Chersfrozenface · 21/02/2024 15:05

Although some way down the story, in a large font and a bright colour, are the words "READ MORE: Murder accused who was obsessed with torture and violence and inspired to kill by the Netflix documentary 'Don't F* with Cats is transgender and would sometimes identify as a feline and meow if happy, court hears"

Given that the words " 'torture-obsessed' woman accused of Don't F* with Cats-inspired murder" occur in the headline to the story, I think the DM is trying to drop a heavy hint.

duc748 · 21/02/2024 15:09

The DM would not be breaking any laws by simply saying 'he', would they? So why don't they do it? I mean, I get why the Guardian would say 'she', even though I strongly disagree, but the Mail?

pickledandpuzzled · 21/02/2024 15:13

That video. His voice, Adam’s apple and size scream male. I can hear another male voice in the background. Both people speaking to him about his needs are women, being nice.

I mean, I know police officers are civil to people being arrested. They are being really cosy though.

Flamme · 21/02/2024 15:18

DuesToTheDirt · 19/02/2024 22:34

Myra Hindley and Rose West were outliers so I guess SB could have been another exception.

Let's not forget that Myra Hindley and Rose West, despicable though they were, acted in conjunction with men. There are even fewer women committing this kind of violent crime on their own. Aileen Wournos, Joanna Dennehy. Any others?

In 2022-23, 56,868 women were convicted of violent crimes.

Chersfrozenface · 21/02/2024 15:23

Flamme · 21/02/2024 15:18

In 2022-23, 56,868 women were convicted of violent crimes.

Is that the number of individuals convicted, or the number of crimes? Individuals can be charged with and convicted of more than one violent crime at one time, or on more than one occasion.

And how many of them were actual biological women?

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2024 15:31

'TV licence evasion was the offence with the highest proportion of female defendants in 2021'

Chersfrozenface · 21/02/2024 15:33

Flamme · 21/02/2024 15:18

In 2022-23, 56,868 women were convicted of violent crimes.

Also, what is the source of this figure?

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