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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scarlet Blake trial - the thing that never happens....

427 replies

CousinGreg55 · 19/02/2024 16:13

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender/

There was a thread a couple of weeks about this case that got deleted. Obviously it's an ongoing trial but it's as we suspected with the defendent.

Murder-accused tells court parents did not accept her as transgender

Scarlet Blake, is on trial at Oxford Crown Court charged with the murder of Jorge Carreno who was found in Parsons Pleasure.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender

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Igmum · 19/02/2024 17:34

Suspect it's the journalists out-woking each other.

Yup, another unfit woman who couldn't strangle a 30-something man here. Wonder whether we should offer ourselves up as a random sample in case the judge or jury are in doubt?

Helleofabore · 19/02/2024 17:37

Apparently pronouns are harmless.

JellySaurus · 19/02/2024 17:41

nauticant · 19/02/2024 17:34

Helloooo, Oxford Mail journalists, breaking news: language matters.

https://twitter.com/geeharland

Note the pronouns.

Views her own, hmm? Have you seen the emails she considers to be abuse? Dear, oh dear.

Zebracat · 19/02/2024 17:57

A crime reporter who talks about the murder trial of the victim rather than the accused? That is such sloppy work.

pickledandpuzzled · 19/02/2024 17:58

I’ve been waiting for clarity on this. Thank you, OP.

Boiledbeetle · 19/02/2024 18:05

Got to say it makes much more sense that this was a crime perpetrated by a man. It didn't sit right that it was a woman who had committed the murder in this case.

PonyPatter44 · 19/02/2024 18:05

Scarlet is in a men's prison. If / when Scarlet is convicted, they will go to the men's estate. This is not up for debate.

Waffleson · 19/02/2024 18:05

I was just coming on to post this. MN dinosaurs called it right again. The local press don't seem capable of reporting what we figured out for ourselves.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/02/2024 18:06

It's long overdue for one of the mainstream press to challenge these toxic guidelines that embed lying into press reporting of sex offences, murder, child abuse, animal abuse , VAWG etc.

It would just take one of the major players to do what I recall the Scottish government did? Recognise a male born rapist (Isla Bryson) was not a woman but a rapist or a ... 🤔
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64590421

Time for the Mail, Telegraph, Times or any other serious media outlet that sees itself as speaking the truth to start reporting accurately the sex of the offender and challenge the legality of these "guidelines" .

There are of course plenty of cases for them to choose from

Isla Bryson

Nicola Sturgeon's gender conundrum: Is Isla Bryson a man or a woman?

Scotland's first minister is grappling with a challenging debate over the identity of a convicted rapist.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64590421

TrainedByCatsToBeScathing · 19/02/2024 18:20

Not surprised, glad they outed themself makes it easier #NotOurCrimes

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/02/2024 18:25

We need that "terfs were right jar" gif.

SamW98 · 19/02/2024 18:51

Well colour me shocked that the 6 ff ‘woman’ putting a live cat in a blender then roaming the streets looking for a man to murder turns out not to be a common or garden woman after all but a ‘special’ one with lady feelz

PonyPatter44 · 19/02/2024 19:22

Its a bit weird that transwomen don't show female patterns of offending after transition. By rights, they should all be in the nick for drug smuggling, benefit fraud and not paying their TV licences. Yet they keep on displaying distinctly male patterns of offending, with a very heavy bias towards sexual offending.

pombear · 19/02/2024 19:25

Jorge Carreno murder trial continues into day eight | Oxford Mail

The narrative from the trial mirrors so many commonalities that members of this forum have highlighted and linked to over the last few years - Discord/meets another male identifying as a woman/online relationship with someone in the US/discussions about death, murder etc.

I suspect the 'Ashlynn Bell' referred to is a much older male.

It reads like a reverse of the other high profile case of young murderers falling into the dark web and malevolent influences - but sadly I doubt (but would be highly impressed if they do) that trans rights activists will be protesting the risks of social media and the internet to vulnerable trans-identifying males.

RECAP: Murder-accused woman gives evidence in stand

The murder trial of Jorge Carreno continues this morning into day eight (February 19). Scarlet Blake, 26, of Crotch Crescent, Marston is on trial…

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24128047.jorge-carreno-murder-trial-continues-day-eight/

Flamme · 19/02/2024 19:32

MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/02/2024 17:25

Presumably this thread will allowed to stay. I have (some time ago) reported a thread discussing a murder trial and MNHQ were very clear that discussion of live trials was allowed as long as posters were careful with comments (forget the specific phrase they used)

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Well, it might if posters were being careful not to commit contempt of court. Unfortunately that is not the case with many posts. Remember, everyone is entitled to a fair trial and you cannot assume guilt.

pombear · 19/02/2024 19:39

Absolutely @Flamme and my own post was not suggesting guilt re murder by the defendant, only providing comment on the defendant's discussion about their online relationship with Ashlynn Bell and their actions the defendant has described in their own words in court as being related directly to that relationship - ie self harm, harming the cat etc.

AvacadoFieldsForever · 19/02/2024 19:49

I’m can’t even call this gaslighting anymore. It’s lying. They’re lying to our faces. We all know what’s happening. It’s deliberately untruthful, inaccurate, deceitful and false.

What happened to journalism and integrity.

Liars and cowards.

DuesToTheDirt · 19/02/2024 20:31

Just another woman then, with a womanly brain, doing womanly things. Nothing to see here.

SamuelDJackson · 19/02/2024 20:35

Quelle surprise! reading the transcripts of evidence in the Oxford Mail, the ´girlfriend´ who shares such charming interests as strangulation, murder and animal cruelty is also a particularly unusual for a woman.... can you guess why?

SamuelDJackson · 19/02/2024 20:45

Previous post deleted I see...
Cases like this seem to underscore the idea that too much unreality is bad for anyone

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2024 21:50

'Blake said Ashlynn was born as a male and later transitioned to male.
"I suppose it was a very typical relationship," she said. "I'm someone who is very much drawn to damaging myself and she was someone who was evidentially willing to ignore typical moral constraints.
"She was someone who was willing to hurt me in ways that normal moral people wouldn't be willing.'

DuesToTheDirt · 19/02/2024 21:52

I'm assuming a typo in the Oxford Mail transcript? But who knows, amongst all this confusion...

2:31pm
Blake said Ashlynn was born as a male and later transitioned to male.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 19/02/2024 22:29

Thank you OP. I had thought the crimes, individually and collectively, were more likely to be male but all the news sources seemed to be insistent these were the crimes of a woman. Myra Hindley and Rose West were outliers so I guess SB could have been another exception. Nope, this board was correct all along.

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