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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scarlet Blake trial - the thing that never happens....

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CousinGreg55 · 19/02/2024 16:13

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender/

There was a thread a couple of weeks about this case that got deleted. Obviously it's an ongoing trial but it's as we suspected with the defendent.

Murder-accused tells court parents did not accept her as transgender

Scarlet Blake, is on trial at Oxford Crown Court charged with the murder of Jorge Carreno who was found in Parsons Pleasure.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender

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CousinGreg55 · 26/02/2024 18:10

Both BBC and Meridian started their reports "A woman..."

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AliceA2021 · 26/02/2024 18:12

Another one.

AliceA2021 · 26/02/2024 18:16

CousinGreg55 · 23/02/2024 15:38

News websites all reporting woman found guilty. Makes me so angry they are lying.

This.

These violent women some murder and some rape. But none of them are really women. They must stop recording these crimes as being done by women - they clearly were not. Need a new category of trans woman or man identify as a female gender did it.

duc748 · 26/02/2024 18:17

OldCrone · 26/02/2024 18:04

This article from 1998 was posted earlier on another thread.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/162216.stm

Back in 1998, a male transsexual was referred to as a 'transsexual man'. Now a male transsexual/transgender person is referred to as a 'transgender woman'.

It's hardly surprising that people get confused.

So the BBC were a lot clearer, and less ambiguous, 26 years ago, than they are now? 🙄It's enough to make you wonder why, isn't it?

AliceA2021 · 26/02/2024 18:29

MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/02/2024 18:06

It's long overdue for one of the mainstream press to challenge these toxic guidelines that embed lying into press reporting of sex offences, murder, child abuse, animal abuse , VAWG etc.

It would just take one of the major players to do what I recall the Scottish government did? Recognise a male born rapist (Isla Bryson) was not a woman but a rapist or a ... 🤔
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64590421

Time for the Mail, Telegraph, Times or any other serious media outlet that sees itself as speaking the truth to start reporting accurately the sex of the offender and challenge the legality of these "guidelines" .

There are of course plenty of cases for them to choose from

'Gender conundrum' in the headline.

There is no conundrum, especially with IB with the meat and 2 veg for all to see in the leggings. Anyone raping someone with a penis should be referred to as male. Everyone needs to stop pandering to the men.

ArabellaScott · 26/02/2024 18:32

The worst thing about male violence is it makes men look bad.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2024 18:44

Reddit r/unitedkingdom

www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/qxoLEerjvw

The thread has been put under the "moderated flair" rules for "AMAs, 'debate arbitration', Q&As, but mostly related to anticipated Content Policy problems given our experience of such in the past".

"The flaring means some, or all, comments will be immediately hidden. Whether they are approved to show or not depends on the aim desired during the submission"

Which doesn't sound like very free comment to me.

RollOnSpringDays · 26/02/2024 18:46

ITV news just described him as a transgender woman. A woman dressed as a man would be a fairer description and I really hope he goes to a male prison, surely that has to happen. What a sicko though - that poor guy he killed.

Merrymouse · 26/02/2024 18:59

The latest BBC update does seem to have taken notice of comments about the word ‘woman’ used in isolation, but says:

“The Ministry of Justice said Blake, who is transgender, would serve the sentence in a men's prison.”

Why not just ‘Blake, who is male’?

The jury will be given counselling because of what they had to hear and see, but heaven forbid that the BBC doesn’t respect Blake’s identity!

RebelliousCow · 26/02/2024 19:04

CriticalCondition · 26/02/2024 17:54

I think the complaints to the BBC might be getting through. This was briefly reported during R4's PM programme headlines a few minutes ago. Blake was referred to as a 'transgender woman who has been told she will serve a life sentence in a men's jail'.
Still a 'she' and still confusing but an improvement on 'woman'.

Lots of people will be confused as to what a transgender woman is. Many will think it is a woman.

This is where TWAW gets you.

I can imagine that TRAS might say "Why does it matter"? They like the idea of blurred boundaries and fluid definitions. Where there is no objective truth.

I wonder whether Lisa Nandy will be upset that Scralett is going to a men's prison; likewise my own MP, Kim Johnson. Both really in favour of people being jailed according to how they identify.

RebelliousCow · 26/02/2024 19:07

RollOnSpringDays · 26/02/2024 18:46

ITV news just described him as a transgender woman. A woman dressed as a man would be a fairer description and I really hope he goes to a male prison, surely that has to happen. What a sicko though - that poor guy he killed.

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You mean a man presenting as a woman.

duc748 · 26/02/2024 19:17

I wonder whether Lisa Nandy will be upset that Scarlet is going to a men's prison; likewise my own MP, Kim Johnson. Both really in favour of people being jailed according to how they identify.

I'd ask her, but she never replies to my emails!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2024 19:21

What might be good is if the bleeding hearts like Nandy etc could write a few articles and go on TV interviews handwringing over the injustice of this "woman" murderer and cat killer serving a life sentence in a male prison.

JanesLittleGirl · 26/02/2024 19:40

Nothing says 'living as a woman' like murder and cat killing.

Boiledbeetle · 26/02/2024 20:02

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1762187612352020860?s=19

"I'm so sick of this shit. This is not a woman. These are #NotOurCrimes"

Scarlet Blake trial - the thing that never happens....
OldCrone · 26/02/2024 21:16

RollOnSpringDays · 26/02/2024 18:46

ITV news just described him as a transgender woman. A woman dressed as a man would be a fairer description and I really hope he goes to a male prison, surely that has to happen. What a sicko though - that poor guy he killed.

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He's not a woman. He's a man pretending to be a woman.

SinnerBoy · 26/02/2024 21:43

Ereshkigalangcleg

I'm.not entirely sure, regarding the community note. I can't even find my own tweets. I liked and commented on a JKR comment and then got the "TWAW," you twat community note.

Merrymouse · 26/02/2024 22:37

https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/news/thames-valley/news/2024/february/19-02-2024/guilty-verdict-for-murder-into-death-of-jorge-martin-carreno--oxford

Thames Valley Police have a markedly different approach to the press.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/02/2024 23:00

SinnerBoy · 26/02/2024 21:43

Ereshkigalangcleg

I'm.not entirely sure, regarding the community note. I can't even find my own tweets. I liked and commented on a JKR comment and then got the "TWAW," you twat community note.

If you can see it you should be able to community note it back, there is an ability to say that someone's note is abuse or incorrect.

SinnerBoy · 27/02/2024 05:54

Yes, I said that it was factually incorrect. Who gets to send them?

ArabellaScott · 27/02/2024 06:34

Merrymouse · 26/02/2024 22:37

No pronouns at all.

TV PCC recently pulled up TVP for saying an alleged sex assault was committed by a 'woman'. It was a man.

pickledandpuzzled · 27/02/2024 07:19

Variety joining in now- what’s enraging is this sudden use of ‘Transgender woman’.

This piece is almost evenhanded, but the use of transgender woman is almost as disingenuous and obfuscating as ‘woman’. M

And JKR and Louise Tickle did not call Scarlett a transgender woman. What with Scarlett being a man. Think I might start with trans man as short for trans identifying man or transgender man. It will help everyone with clarity 😉

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TinselAngel · 27/02/2024 08:14

JKR will be devastated that somebody who didn't win Eurovision, disagrees with her.