Scarlet Blake trial - the thing that never happens....

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https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender/

There was a thread a couple of weeks about this case that got deleted. Obviously it's an ongoing trial but it's as we suspected with the defendent.

Ted Bundy volunteered for the Samaritans too. Make of that what you will.

I think it's probably like catnip to burgeoning psychopaths. Speaking to the right person may mean the difference between the caller committing suicide or not. It's power to play god, in a sense.

I'm also confused about the blanket reporting (initially, anyway) of this male perp as a woman. I have no idea about court reporting really. Would a journalist from a major national newspaper not be present, as well as ones from local papers? Surely the Oxford Mail didn't have a monopoly on reporting this case??

The hack concerned looks from her profile photos and snaps she's popped onto her Twitter feed to be mid-20's tops (and for what it's worth has she/her in her profile). Could she really have been the ONLY conduit through which reporting of this case all last week flowed?? And therefore all the nationals just lazily C&P everything? If anyone has a reliable insight into the way things are done, I'd be interested! However, if it's the case that there were specific instructions from the court to use this horrible man's preferred pronouns, I wonder if there's a way of finding out?

This case - which incredibly I had only recently heard about - happened literally just down the road from me and I'm appalled on so many counts.

I note that the current 'live' feed from Oxford Mail's Twitter/X hasn't actually said 'woman' this morning ... Maybe someone there is reading the room.

I have no idea about court reporting really. Would a journalist from a major national newspaper not be present, as well as ones from local papers?

Not any more. Even local papers use more and more syndicated content. Newspapers are struggling to monetise the content they produce so fewer sub editors and fewer journalists.

Live stream from The Mirror (if you can cope with all the she and her-ing!)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scarlet-blake-cat-killer-live-32212674

Sorry, I haven't read the full thread and was confused that the other one had disappeared.

Does this person have a GRC?

Not sure if this Telegraph article was posted already, it might have been on another thread

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/scarlet-blake-cat-killing-guilty-jorge-martin-carreno/

It says:
Blake’s identity as a biological male who came out as transgender aged 12 was first raised by judge Martin Chamberlain at the start of the trial, who informed jurors it would “not be at issue during the trial”.
Jurors later heard that Blake had “always wanted to be a girl” but that the decision to transition caused an “emotional rift” between Blake’s parents, resulting in “unmet parental needs”.
As he summed up the facts on Thursday, Judge Chamberlain told the jury: “The fact she is trans on its own has no particular relevance to this case.
“It doesn’t make it any more or less likely that she is guilty of the offence with which she is charged.”
Yet he added that jurors were allowed to consider her “stature” and whether they believed she was “physically able” to carry out the attack on Mr Carreno.
At 69kg (approximately 10 stone 12 lb), the court heard Blake weighed almost two stone more than her 57kg (just under 9 stone) victim and was as tall as Mr Carreno, at around 171cm (5’ 7”).
Jurors were told of this weight difference during the trial.
Blake, who was born in China and emigrated to the UK in 2002, told jurors that never exercising was a means to avoid “masculine muscle gain”. Jurors heard Blake’s strength was the equivalent of an “unfit female”.

Having read Louise Tickle (journalist and writer) on Twitter, no.

I don't think we know.

I will go back to the question I asked earlier about something the judge said about the accused's transgender status i.e.that it "would not be at issue".

Does it mean "would not be the subject of debate" i. e. that everyone accepted the accused's transgender status and would refer to him as though he were female?

And therefore no mention was made of whether his preferred identity of "woman" was self ID or backed by a GRC.

Sentencing at 2.15 today.

The prosecution are arguing the murder was sexually motivated.

the defence are arguing it was 'an initiation' into the polycule Scarlet was part of.

“Jurors heard Blake’s strength was the equivalent of an “unfit female”.”

Although it didn’t apparently make a difference to the verdict, this seems very, very incorrect.

I've seen a few articles going back several years about the death of court reporting. I think most trials were transcribed (court...stenographer?) but that went with austerity, i could be wrong about this. I think having them recorded replaced this. But the recordings aren't available to the press or public and getting a trial transcript is horrendously expensive. If we're lucky we have tribunal tweets. The reporter on this case (pronouns or no), we're fortunate to have she/her.

It's worrying, justice is meant to be seen to be done. We don't know what's going entirely unreported.

I'd like to know who decided Blake has the strength of an unfit female.

Not our crimes.

I've just read this in the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/26/louise-tickle-boycott-guardian-cat-killer-transgender/

The journalist, Louise Tickle, has written to Katherine Viner strongly criticising the paper for misleading it's readers about the sex of this bloke and in other stories with transgender people.

In this case, the Guardian isn't the only news source guilty of that. As Louise Tickle is one of their writers I understand why her criticism is aimed at them.

That was Blake himself.

BBC just reported this, saying woman, not trans, not m to f, just woman. I have complained.

Yes just saw on lunchtime news just "woman who killed cat then murdered man".

Me too.

Wow, Louise Tickle's letter to Kath Viner is blistering.

https://twitter.com/louisetickle/status/1761854674683023796/photo/1
https://twitter.com/louisetickle/status/1761854674683023796/photo/2
https://twitter.com/louisetickle/status/1761854674683023796/photo/3
https://twitter.com/louisetickle/status/1761854674683023796/photo/4

The only reason my rapists court case and then sentence was in the newspaper was because I informed the newspaper prior to the trial starting. And that was 13 years ago.

Otherwise it would have gone entirely unreported due to lack of newspaper staff.

I imagine these days they have even less journalists employed to be able to afford to send one off to cover a trial for god knows how long when you know you can crib from other news outlets.

Or, as in the case of the reporting by the BBC and others on the egregious Naomi / Nathan O"Brien, copy and paste the lying media release from Greater Manchester Police.

Just watched the BBC lunchtime news, and the murderer Blake was referred to as a woman, not even a transwoman. Have complained to the BBC.

Louise Tickle 👏👏👏👏👏👏

@Boiledbeetle I knew it predated austerity. There's probably all sorts of stuff going on that we don't know about. Tipping off the news yourself was an excellent idea. Sad that it was necessary but something to bear in mind for people in a similar position.

The Telegraph has a link, live reporting Scarlet's sentencing.

Isnt a polycule sexual?