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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian members club to only allow biological women

478 replies

JanesLittleGirl · 18/02/2024 12:52

"A FEMINIST campaigner is to open the UK’s first lesbian members bar that will only allow biological women to join.

The bar, named the L Community, is due to open in London later this year and will operate as a private members club so that it can bar trans women.

The bar has been set up by Jenny Watson, who in September last year was at the centre of a transphobia row after she insisted only “adult human females” could attend the lesbian speed-dating events she had organised."

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I'll get an archive link in a bit.

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LesbianNan · 24/02/2024 10:17

Re PT.
He is still in the 1970's in his head. His mindset has never changed, but is as shallow as ever. He's a bit older than I am, but every bit of LGB and the T history since the 70's I've watched him operate around. His sexuality is his grift and has always been.
His stance around Operation Spanner, where he supported the right of gay men to inflict bodily harm on each other( as they were consenting adults) fed into all the gay hatred during the AIDS crisis.
I'll stop now, as he makes me foam at the mouth.😡

Emotionalsupportviper · 24/02/2024 10:32

Not sure why I was deleted - read the guidelines and didn't think I'd broken any, but obviously I must have.

C'est la vie

TheClogLady · 24/02/2024 11:32

“I'm not on Twitter, and these days, it only lets you see one tweet, you don't even get to see a whole thread. So I can only see a bit.”

Here’s some screen shots (6 in all, so it will take two MN posts)

Tatchell‘s initial tweet and Dennis’ response:

Lesbian members club to only allow biological women
Lesbian members club to only allow biological women
TheClogLady · 24/02/2024 11:33

And the rest of the thread:

Lesbian members club to only allow biological women
Lesbian members club to only allow biological women
Lesbian members club to only allow biological women
Lesbian members club to only allow biological women
bombastix · 24/02/2024 11:39

Well he is absolutely right and good for him. I hope more people say it, over and over again.

Transbians are straight men. Lesbians have zero interest; this pantomime should stop for those who aren't interested.

Datun · 24/02/2024 12:21

TheClogLady · 24/02/2024 11:33

And the rest of the thread:

Thank you for the screenshots!

And yes, it's totally different for men than women.

Straight men do not go into gay bars to ogle gay men kissing. Nor do straight women. There are, of course, some straight women who identify as men, who are giving gay men a hard time, but it's not in the same league.

Allowing straight men into a lesbian bar, however they identify, is a sexual thrill for them.

Unsurprising that this bloody awful ideology that has managed to legitimise straight men's unwanted access to women, goes straight over tatchell's head.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 24/02/2024 15:49

Datun · 24/02/2024 12:21

Thank you for the screenshots!

And yes, it's totally different for men than women.

Straight men do not go into gay bars to ogle gay men kissing. Nor do straight women. There are, of course, some straight women who identify as men, who are giving gay men a hard time, but it's not in the same league.

Allowing straight men into a lesbian bar, however they identify, is a sexual thrill for them.

Unsurprising that this bloody awful ideology that has managed to legitimise straight men's unwanted access to women, goes straight over tatchell's head.

Even the small number of women who find two men kissing a turn-on (stares at feet awkwardly and blushes) don't pose the predatory, potentially-violent, structural threat to gay men that straight men pose to lesbians. And we take "no" for an answer, we don't try to enter male-only spaces because we respect boundaries. And I don't know of any woman who would be rude enough to go to a gay bar and openly stare.

Froodwithatowel · 24/02/2024 20:24

The male people who are demanding to invade the space of non consenting homosexual females, are not wanting to ogle. They're wanting sexual relationships and feel entitled to them.

Lesbians wanting space away from males aren't just trying to avoid the staring and poor chat up lines of straight men in this situation, they are trying to avoid what has happened in every other lesbian group that hasn't escaped underground. To avoid male people dominating it, lecturing at length about the importance of - well, in fact not being homosexual- and looking for the sexual experiences they want from those women, and requiring that everything revolves at all times around TQ+ principles and the men present. And where as you can tell a straight man to fuck off, in a TQ+ political environment there is a fuckton of pressure and shaming and coercion that you must pretend at all times that this male is a woman. And that you're great with women having penises, all good lesbians love penises. And you love straight lady dick based sex. Because everyone else is doing it, it's only you being weird about it, and you're not some disgusting bigot are you, and you're not some weird fetishist are you, and you wouldn't hurt this person's feelings would you?

All demonstrated right here on thread.

Maaate · 24/02/2024 20:46

TheClogLady · 23/02/2024 18:39

The owner didn’t reveal their trans status until AFTER the launch, don’t you think that’s kinda odd?

Anyway, I guess we’ll see what’s most popular/which has most longevity as things unfold in real time? A female-only lesbian private members club or a trans tapas cafe that identifies as a lesbian bar for anyone who feels like they belong in a lesbian bar.

So there is a bar that caters for transbians where they can find females who are open to dating them, and there is a bar for females only.

Surely TW would be pleased not to accidentally try to pick up a terfy sexual racist?

Froodwithatowel · 24/02/2024 21:19

You'd think, wouldn't you? But the non consenting ones appear to be pure catnip.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/02/2024 21:35

I came across this most unpleasant trans activist cartoon the other day. Drawn by a trans activist.

songaboutjam · 24/02/2024 21:58

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/02/2024 21:35

I came across this most unpleasant trans activist cartoon the other day. Drawn by a trans activist.

I have no words.

Peskysquirrel · 24/02/2024 22:02

Fucking grim rapey shit

ScrollingLeaves · 24/02/2024 22:26

That is rape.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/02/2024 22:32

Never a better image though to illustrate that transwomen are men.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/02/2024 22:38

ScrollingLeaves · 24/02/2024 22:26

That is rape.

And they know it. The victim has been drawn to be visibly fearful.

JanesLittleGirl · 24/02/2024 22:39

Really didn't need to see that. One sick puppy.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/02/2024 23:33

That's a fairly old image, it was early peaking material for many women here. Not sure why it's being rolled out again by the TRAs but I've seen it being talked of approvingly in the last few days.

Datun · 25/02/2024 01:45

Froodwithatowel · 24/02/2024 20:24

The male people who are demanding to invade the space of non consenting homosexual females, are not wanting to ogle. They're wanting sexual relationships and feel entitled to them.

Lesbians wanting space away from males aren't just trying to avoid the staring and poor chat up lines of straight men in this situation, they are trying to avoid what has happened in every other lesbian group that hasn't escaped underground. To avoid male people dominating it, lecturing at length about the importance of - well, in fact not being homosexual- and looking for the sexual experiences they want from those women, and requiring that everything revolves at all times around TQ+ principles and the men present. And where as you can tell a straight man to fuck off, in a TQ+ political environment there is a fuckton of pressure and shaming and coercion that you must pretend at all times that this male is a woman. And that you're great with women having penises, all good lesbians love penises. And you love straight lady dick based sex. Because everyone else is doing it, it's only you being weird about it, and you're not some disgusting bigot are you, and you're not some weird fetishist are you, and you wouldn't hurt this person's feelings would you?

All demonstrated right here on thread.

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Absolutely.

Datun · 25/02/2024 01:50

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/02/2024 23:33

That's a fairly old image, it was early peaking material for many women here. Not sure why it's being rolled out again by the TRAs but I've seen it being talked of approvingly in the last few days.

Definitely drawn by a heterosexual man. Do any of them happen to draw a man looking scared, whilst an obvious bloke straddles them?

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 25/02/2024 02:23

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/02/2024 21:35

I came across this most unpleasant trans activist cartoon the other day. Drawn by a trans activist.

The alarm and fear on the woman's face is clear.

They are not even trying to hide their desire to rape lesbians.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 25/02/2024 02:28

Froodwithatowel · 24/02/2024 21:19

You'd think, wouldn't you? But the non consenting ones appear to be pure catnip.

Remind me again what the word is for people with penises who actively want to put them in someone who doesn't want a penis in?

Rappist? Tapist? Something like that...

Froodwithatowel · 25/02/2024 12:58

I think, from one of those articles I read and thought jeez not even James Herbert writes stuff this disturbing, it's supposed to be called 'calling out/challenging someone gate keeping their vagina'.

Which pretty much confirms that word you're fumbling for. This idea of women withholding access to their body in socially unjust ways, and providing sex to men being a duty that has nothing to do with desire or their wishes and feelings?

It's fucking medieval. And it's pure incel. It is not something anyone should be indulging.

EasternStandard · 25/02/2024 13:26

I haven’t looked at the image as I can imagine from the responses how revolting it is and don’t need to see it

I wonder if the creators of the GRA thought about or cared that it would be where we are today

I wonder if they thought of their dds whilst passing the law

lechiffre55 · 25/02/2024 21:33

The girl doesn't seem too happy with the penis. Very rapey.
Who wants to force themselves on someone who doesn't want sex?