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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian members club to only allow biological women

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JanesLittleGirl · 18/02/2024 12:52

"A FEMINIST campaigner is to open the UK’s first lesbian members bar that will only allow biological women to join.

The bar, named the L Community, is due to open in London later this year and will operate as a private members club so that it can bar trans women.

The bar has been set up by Jenny Watson, who in September last year was at the centre of a transphobia row after she insisted only “adult human females” could attend the lesbian speed-dating events she had organised."

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1615/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/1615/pub/1615/page/23/article/NaN

I'll get an archive link in a bit.

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TheClogLady · 23/02/2024 15:02

Here’s a bio I found online for the new Lesbian Bar/Trans Tapas Cafe’s owner:

Lesbian members club to only allow biological women
PlanetJanette · 23/02/2024 15:57

Funny that La Camionera has had such a seemingly strong start given the folk here who tell us the reason lesbian spaces are rarer is because of trans people and people who identify as queer.

Hadn't actually heard about it (a bit beyond my Dalston years by now...) until now but will need to check it out. Unfortunately, La Camionera is also likely to face significant struggles to survive.

Froodwithatowel · 23/02/2024 16:06

Look, if you're losing this much sleep about women-only spaces not being financially viable have a bake sale or start a crowd fund or something.

PlanetJanette · 23/02/2024 16:23

Froodwithatowel · 23/02/2024 16:06

Look, if you're losing this much sleep about women-only spaces not being financially viable have a bake sale or start a crowd fund or something.

It’s 4pm. What makes you think I’m losing sleep?

AlisonDonut · 23/02/2024 16:28

TheClogLady · 23/02/2024 15:02

Here’s a bio I found online for the new Lesbian Bar/Trans Tapas Cafe’s owner:

Not Balenciaga again...

LesbianNan · 23/02/2024 16:59

Proposed Rules for the Lesbian Club.
Casual but smart.
Hoodies jeans and trainers allowed.
Free entry if you have a picture of Martina Navatrilova over your bed.
No bobble hats
No golf wear
No rubber thongs
No shit wigs or steroids.

IwantToRetire · 23/02/2024 17:03

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TheClogLady · 23/02/2024 18:39

PlanetJanette · 23/02/2024 15:57

Funny that La Camionera has had such a seemingly strong start given the folk here who tell us the reason lesbian spaces are rarer is because of trans people and people who identify as queer.

Hadn't actually heard about it (a bit beyond my Dalston years by now...) until now but will need to check it out. Unfortunately, La Camionera is also likely to face significant struggles to survive.

The owner didn’t reveal their trans status until AFTER the launch, don’t you think that’s kinda odd?

Anyway, I guess we’ll see what’s most popular/which has most longevity as things unfold in real time? A female-only lesbian private members club or a trans tapas cafe that identifies as a lesbian bar for anyone who feels like they belong in a lesbian bar.

MadeOfAllWork · 23/02/2024 19:18

TheClogLady · 23/02/2024 18:39

The owner didn’t reveal their trans status until AFTER the launch, don’t you think that’s kinda odd?

Anyway, I guess we’ll see what’s most popular/which has most longevity as things unfold in real time? A female-only lesbian private members club or a trans tapas cafe that identifies as a lesbian bar for anyone who feels like they belong in a lesbian bar.

Let’s see how long it lasts I guess.

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thatsthewayitis · 23/02/2024 20:46

The thing that worries the men, straight and trans-identifying, is that middle-aged Karens will be at Jenny's club and will tell the young Lesbians plainly and vigorously that they don't owe transwomen nor any men sex!

Love middle-aged take-no-prisoners women!
lesbian and straight ❤️

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 23/02/2024 21:09

Froodwithatowel · 23/02/2024 11:36

And women who want to date straight men as well as lesbian women are bisexual.

And they should be proud of being bisexual instead of stealing someone else's label.

JanesLittleGirl · 23/02/2024 21:41

PlanetJanette · 23/02/2024 10:30

Given that they've not even got half the money needed to set it up, I'm not so sure.

Ooh that's interesting. Would you care to share your source?

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VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 23/02/2024 22:59

SamW98 · 23/02/2024 12:28

Not only that but other women are these men’s cheerleaders and enablers

"Do it to Julia! Do it to Julia! Not me! Julia! I don’t care what you do to her."

Winston, in 1984 by George Orwell.

It's easy for straight and bisexual female "trans allies" to throw lesbians under the bus because we can carry on dating men if lesbianism is forced underground and suppressed. And we have every motive to do so: fear for our own safety from violent TRAs.

It is hard to show solidarity with lesbians, but we must: for them, because their very existence as a sexual minority and their right to freedom from sexual coercion is at stake; and for ourselves, because when violent people can use threats to dictate our actions, we are no longer free.

noraclavicle · 23/02/2024 23:12

PlanetJanette · 23/02/2024 12:26

Well its several months after she first set out to do this and she still doesn't have half the investment she needs, so your lack of doubt that the money will be there for it seems misplaced.

Well you just inspired me to donate a tenner. Thanks for the heads up PlanetJannette!

PlanetJanette · 24/02/2024 04:27

JanesLittleGirl · 23/02/2024 21:41

Ooh that's interesting. Would you care to share your source?

Watsons interview with GB News.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/02/2024 09:24

JanesLittleGirl · 18/02/2024 12:52

"A FEMINIST campaigner is to open the UK’s first lesbian members bar that will only allow biological women to join.

The bar, named the L Community, is due to open in London later this year and will operate as a private members club so that it can bar trans women.

The bar has been set up by Jenny Watson, who in September last year was at the centre of a transphobia row after she insisted only “adult human females” could attend the lesbian speed-dating events she had organised."

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1615/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/1615/pub/1615/page/23/article/NaN

I'll get an archive link in a bit.

Came cross a lovely tender twitter thread from Dennis Kavanagh responding to the creepy Peter Tatchell's determination to police lesbians. It resonated with me and my early experiences and is a lovely antidote to some of the crude hostility to lesbians seen on this thread:

https://twitter.com/Jebadoo2/status/1761159615092240435

https://twitter.com/Jebadoo2/status/1761159615092240435

ollypollymolly · 24/02/2024 09:32

Interesting- anyone know even vaguely where the cafe / bar is likely to be ?

LesbianNan · 24/02/2024 09:36

Dennis Kavanagh is a very sound, as well as clever, human being. He seems to always know the right thing to say or do. He's not a virtue signaller but always speaks up when needed, and not just around LGB matters. His stance on anti semitism has been gutsy and appreciated.

JanesLittleGirl · 24/02/2024 09:39

ollypollymolly · 24/02/2024 09:32

Interesting- anyone know even vaguely where the cafe / bar is likely to be ?

It's likely to be in Southwark.

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JanesLittleGirl · 24/02/2024 09:41

I got that from the GB News interview that Janette so kindly mentioned upthread.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/02/2024 09:43

LesbianNan · 24/02/2024 09:36

Dennis Kavanagh is a very sound, as well as clever, human being. He seems to always know the right thing to say or do. He's not a virtue signaller but always speaks up when needed, and not just around LGB matters. His stance on anti semitism has been gutsy and appreciated.

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He's great. I regularly head to his twitter feed as it's so interesting. He's a real force for good - I know he's posted on here before.

ollypollymolly · 24/02/2024 09:45

Oh really ?! That is lovely and close to where I work @JanesLittleGirl

Will donate and get on the mailing list

bombastix · 24/02/2024 09:51

Tat hell is such a hypocrite; all those years carving out acceptance and places for gay men, and mewing about a space for lesbians. He should be put out to pasture

Datun · 24/02/2024 09:57

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/02/2024 09:24

Came cross a lovely tender twitter thread from Dennis Kavanagh responding to the creepy Peter Tatchell's determination to police lesbians. It resonated with me and my early experiences and is a lovely antidote to some of the crude hostility to lesbians seen on this thread:

https://twitter.com/Jebadoo2/status/1761159615092240435

I'm not on Twitter, and these days, it only lets you see one tweet, you don't even get to see a whole thread. So I can only see a bit.

But how blinkered does Tatchel have to be, even after all these years of women explaining, that he still can't understand the difference between women entering a men's space, and men entering a woman's space? Especially if it's sexually motivated.

Would he feel the same way if transmen entered his gay male space, who were 7 feet tall, all twice as strong as him, were sexually aggressive and massively entitled, viewing his disinterest as something to overcome with intimidation tactics if necessary? Or violence.

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