Starmer furious that Sunak should mention his definition of ‘woman’

[HagoftheNorth]

PMQ’s today, Sunak highlighted Starmer’s famous comments that some women have a penis. Starmer was furious that Sunak should make that comment while Mrs Ghey was in the chamber. Surely Starmer should realise that it is possible to be respectful and compassionate about trans people without parroting the insane lie that transwomen are women (because ‘woman’ is sex not gender)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68229785

Just seems grubby that they are both using that murdered wean to score political points.

No it's a more general Labour Party thread.

They've run out of arguments so decided to run with this instead.

I thought it was explicitly stated in the summing up that Brianna being trans had nothing to do with being targeted by the killers.

2 weeks before Ghey was murdered, a 15 year old girl was stabbed to death in public, in Hexham town centre, by a mentally unstable boy of the same age that she had rejected.

Has her mother been invited into the Commons or onto news programmes? Or is the murder of a girl by a boy just a bit too boring?

Listened via catch up on the bus, laughed out loud at her intro "I think I'm the first woman you've had on to discuss this"

Quite.

It was a cheap shot, with a murdered transgender child's mother in the public gallery to hear it. Sunak is a nasty piece of work.

Why on earth was today the wrong time to pull Starmer up on women's existence and rights in particular? Were the questions about the NHS insensitive or the joke about betting? No one is arguing they were - but as soon as women are mentioned everyone is falling over themselves to criticise it because it makes them one of the good people™️ and only bad people think women's rights should be mentioned. There's always some reason we're back of the queue and trans is just the latest in a long line of excuses, it'll be something else this time next year. I don't really feel like being a good, patient service animal. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to condemn in case some accuses us of being right wing <faints> but rather interrogate the plainly bigoted attacks by the few noisy kettles who just want to guilt us into silence by whatever means they have. Because make no mistake this really is all about us.

Starmer's very own words, in his war on women, were used against him. He didn't like it, so he used a murdered teenager and her grieving mother to deflect. What a slimebag.

Where was the mother? Not sure what the story is

Whatever your views on trans people there is a time and a place to make such comments.

The idea that any subject is off limit in the HoC is madness.

This.

That is very sad to hear and you do raise an important point as to why some cases get more attention than others. In my part of the country, there has been a tragic stabbing of a young student (its happening more and more and its becoming increasingly scary). I see little mention of this in the wider press. My thoughts go to all those families who've lost someone in tragic circumstances like this. We need an urgent debate on the wellbeing and safeguarding of young people instead of this point scoring and raucous behaviour from political parties. Its about time our MPs grew up and debated respectively.

You are wrong.

Sentencing, Mrs Justice Yip said: “You both took part in a brutal and planned murder which was sadistic in nature and where a secondary motive was hostility towards Brianna because of her transgender identity.”

Only she wasn't!

Even that famous lefty Dan Hodges thinks Sunak is a liability and that he should apologise.

https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1755221882733797548?s=20

x.com/DPJHodges/status/1755250524981530943?s=20

So she wasn’t there when he said it anyway

And Starmer’s position is a joke on this

Briannas mother was not in the public gallery.

While sunak probably could have been a little more cautious (though he may not have know she was in the parliament building), it strikes me that is Labour using Brianna as a political football to score points, its transparent and grim

Sunak knew that she was in Parliament (and would probably have been under the impression that she was in the public gallery), given that ten minutes earlier, Starmer had told the Commons: "This week, the unwavering bravery of Brianna Ghey’s mother, Esther, has touched us all. As a father, I cannot even imagine the pain that she is going through. I am glad that she is with us in the Gallery today."

Starmer is disgusting to twist this narrative especially as Esther was not in the building until later.
Sunak's comment was about women's rights not a terrible murder.

It really is

This sums up how I feel about politics. Just dick-swinging with no actual substance or achievements.