Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

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Exclusive in Diva, following a reception at a LGBT+ Labour event in Parliament on 29 Jan:

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

"“We’ll strengthen the law, so every category of hate crime is treated as an aggravated offence,” Starmer said. “We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care. We’ll modernise the Gender Recognition Act. We’ll implement a full, trans-inclusive, ban on all forms of conversion therapy. We fully support the view that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging abuse.”

“We are committed to a decade of national renewal and will work with all the organisations in this room tonight so every child can feel proud and confident in who they are, to stand up for LGBT+ rights at home and abroad and to get Britain’s future back.”

The mention of children is unclear but must have a background to the full speech? LGBT Labour hasn't tweeted about it but others have. Rayner and Dodds also in attendance.

https://x.com/djrm94/status/1752057964767101041?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/stevenatkins/status/1752256944843162016?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/anuox/status/1752094930074325420?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

That aggressive behaviour by LRM in plain sight was the nail in the coffin for me. Condoned by all accounts. If one of my colleagues had done that to me at work they would have been a formal disciplinary procedure.

I'm not sure that's what I did rex. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

I can see why a gay man might find her objectionable, but how he behaved was inexcusable

https://twitter.com/sheffieldtrib/status/1492157598447153160

What LRM did that day in Parliament should have been his last day as a Labour MP. His behaviour had no place in Parliament and sure as hell had no place in the Labour Party.

The fact that KS never made a public statement and allowed that odious cretin to keep his job tells me everything I need to know about the leadership of the Labour Party.

Because that will allow gender crits in Labour to go on the offensive. Labour are so lucky that Rosie or countless other gender crits in the party haven't sued them for sexism. They would win.
I'll be very happy indeed if I'm proved wrong but I can't ever see this happening because when push comes to shove, I believe loyalty to the Labour Party will stop them.

This is why I think the Labour Women's Declaration will always fall down. Much as I admire and applaud them, the party always comes first - you can see it in their name.

This is why I think the Labour Women's Declaration will always fall down. Much as I admire and applaud them, the party always comes first - you can see it in their name.

It's like some kind of Stockholm Syndrome. Almost unfathomable from the outside!

If your colleague was subject to a formal disciplinary procedure, would that be openly communicated by the company?
Everywhere I've worked disciplinaries have been confidential.

What do you think about Crispin Blunt and Andrew Rosindell continuing to serve as conservative MPs?
What about Cleverly and his "colourful" language?

Nice bit of whataboutery there. This thread is about Starmer and Labour. Why would we mention MPs of different parties when discussing those?

None of us are banging a drum saying how amazing the Tories are in relation to VAWG, where you are about Starmer, whose actions appear to contradict the high opinion you have of him.

Start a thread about obnoxious Tory MPs and we can then join in.

I don’t care if a male finds a woman ‘objectionable’

There’s enough excuses for men already without looking for more

I disagree. It is what you did Adam. Own it.

And hope no one mentions Nick Brown. MIA since how long now?

@AdamRyan yes it was communicated.

@AdamRyan no one is saying that the Tory MPs behaviour is good but that’s not what this thread is about. Stop trying to distract, we’re not idiots. It’s not doing you any favours.

Unfathomable from the outside, invisible from the inside. I think you have to walk away before you can see it - I did anyway.

Ah OK gotcha. This thread is for anti- Labour posters. I misunderstood and thought it wS a discussion

It’s more an issue when people say I get why a male is aggressive

Just because a woman has a view

Most people can see it’s a poor argument

Male aggression isn’t understandable due to ‘objectionable’ women

I agree that Labour women do have a huge blind spot where party loyalty is concerned. They will put up with sexist crap that Tory women would throw a fit over in some ways.

However, we are talking about a party of 400,000 members. Plenty might not want to rock the boat before the next general election, BUT if they win power what then? Remember too TRAs inside the party are totally willing to wreck it to get their own way.

The gender wars in Labour are ONLY going to get worse. Look at the activities of Labour students. Are they going to be campaigning for Rosie in the election or try to destroy her? Again. Is Starmer going to let the TRAs gamble that no-one inside the party will sue them for sexism ever. Or that the Tories won't use it as a weapon. Or will he stamp on them hard despite not wanting too.

So keep watching this space.

Plus there is always the possibility of people outside Labour suing the party or Labour councils for sexism. It is already happening in Westminster.

It is. About Labour and Keir Starmer. Not whataboutery about other parties.

Do feminists go on about women being objectionable when looking at male aggression?

Seems highly incongruent

Rosie Duffields disciplinary was public knowledge

Crispin Blunt no longer had the Tory whip he is an independent now.
The Reigate and Banstead conservative prospective candidate Rebecca Paul is openly Gender Critical and support women's rights. I asked her about it in the doorstep a couple of weeks ago.
I told her she's got my vote.

Boiledbeetle · Today 12:12

But... What did the head of the Labour Party the wonderful KS do about LRMs despicable behaviour? Considering a good many people complained?

Starmer told him he'd been a very naughty boy and to make a mealy-mouthed, self-serving non apology, to make it appear that the Labour Party don't tolerate that sort of thing.

I've also looked Andrew Rossindale up. The Tory whip has asked him not to attend Parliament.
so neither men have the support of the Conservative Party , unlike the Labour misogynists who blithely carry on in the high ranks of the party.

Textbook. Whataboutery then attack. Why is it so hard to just admit that Labour has a problem with women?

This thread is about Labour. Your want to discuss the issue with Conservative MPs start a thread on that.

Exactly.