"I mean, HC was more of the same technocratic stuff from the Democrat Party. Is it even arguable that she wasn't?"
Hillary Clinton is an interesting illustration of 'A woman's place is in the wrong'.
For decades she was attacked by the right for being what would be termed 'woke' these days - a dangerous feminist extremist who was involved in Civil Rights activities in the 60s, worked in free legal aid, children's rights, sexual abuse cases, violence against women campaigns, and who shock horror wanted to keep her name after she married. Worse still, she continued to campaign for health care andwomen's rights when married to the president, instead of being a decorative First Lady. And wore pants suits, for heaven's sake!
She was credited with popularising, if not inventing, the phrase 'Women's rights are human rights' in a speech in the 1990s
So all in all a dangerously radical pinko women's libber, unAmerican, unnatural, you name it.
Before any of her own goals- Benghazi, baskets, Bill or dodgy email servers - she was already targeted by the right as a woman with ideas above her station, to be taken down. Any of her presidential campaign speeches I saw on TV focused on issues like poverty, education, Black communities' and woman's rights. She was ridiculed for 'turning on the tears' when she showed emotion during a press conference. Trump's attacks on her were only the culmination of decades of sexist abuse from Republicans.
I don't think much of her one way or another, although I know women in Northern Ireland who remember her warmly for her personal involvement during the peace process. I'm agnostic about her merits as a presidential candidate, but she's a good example of when the wind shifts, none of your past history matters. After decades of being attacked for being a dangerous lefty bleeding-heart activist, her own side dismissed her as a remote humourless technocrat.
What female candidate would be able to withstand being too emotional/not emotional enough, politically inexperienced/technocrat, too feminine/not feminine enough, too radical/ not radical enough, too likeable/not likeable enough? Depressing.