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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

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ResisterRex · 30/01/2024 10:26

Exclusive in Diva, following a reception at a LGBT+ Labour event in Parliament on 29 Jan:

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

"“We’ll strengthen the law, so every category of hate crime is treated as an aggravated offence,” Starmer said. “We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care. We’ll modernise the Gender Recognition Act. We’ll implement a full, trans-inclusive, ban on all forms of conversion therapy. We fully support the view that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging abuse.”

“We are committed to a decade of national renewal and will work with all the organisations in this room tonight so every child can feel proud and confident in who they are, to stand up for LGBT+ rights at home and abroad and to get Britain’s future back.”

The mention of children is unclear but must have a background to the full speech? LGBT Labour hasn't tweeted about it but others have. Rayner and Dodds also in attendance.

https://x.com/djrm94/status/1752057964767101041?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/stevenatkins/status/1752256944843162016?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/anuox/status/1752094930074325420?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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Winnading · 03/02/2024 16:23

nothingcomestonothing · 03/02/2024 16:19

He's been a top flight barrister so obviously very intelligent and able to understand detail.

Well you'd think a very intelligent person would known that 0% of women have penises, but Sir Keir says 1% of them do. So either he's not as clever as he seems, or he's a liar.

And stupid or liar is not what I would call potential leader of the UK.

But yanno, you do you Adam.

WaterHound · 03/02/2024 16:24

nothingcomestonothing · 03/02/2024 16:19

He's been a top flight barrister so obviously very intelligent and able to understand detail.

Well you'd think a very intelligent person would known that 0% of women have penises, but Sir Keir says 1% of them do. So either he's not as clever as he seems, or he's a liar.

This.

EasternStandard · 03/02/2024 16:24

I can’t say I get the mooning over Starmer

Boiledbeetle · 03/02/2024 16:24

You know those insane preachers that stand in town screaming "repent" and going on about the end of days, the ones that would make even the most devoted nun think "hell no"

That's the sort of vibes I'm getting on here but instead of repent its like we are being told if we don't vote Labour we will bring about the end of days!

I shall do what I do with the street preachers and raise an eyebrow and keep on walking!

Floisme · 03/02/2024 16:32

A long time ago I used to canvass for the Labour Party. I imagine other posters have too. It was drilled into us: never, ever get into arguments no matter what the provocation.

Clabony · 03/02/2024 16:35

@Boiledbeetle funny you should say that.
I was thinking of all the Trotskyist groupings trying to sell half baked papers to me over the decades I used to go to Conference. All a tad too eager and pop eyed.

Not forgetting that I did once see some bloke in a Celtic scarf trying to sell a magazine outside Parkhead with the headline Dialectical Materialism. I think he might have been from Socialist Organiser.
<It could have been Billy Bragg on his paper round - similar vibes>.

He didn't last too long.

ResisterRex · 03/02/2024 16:37

Repent motherfucker?

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NoWordForFluffy · 03/02/2024 16:41

That's the sort of vibes I'm getting on here but instead of repent its like we are being told if we don't vote Labour we will bring about the end of days!

The devilish side of me really wants to vote Tory just because I can and the frothing on here if Labour doesn't win will be hilarious! Not sure the sensible side will let myself do that though.

duc748 · 03/02/2024 16:48

Nightmare scenario: Labour has the most seats, but no overall majority, needs the support of SNP, Greens, Plaid.... 🙁

PronounssheRa · 03/02/2024 17:09

nothingcomestonothing · 03/02/2024 16:19

He's been a top flight barrister so obviously very intelligent and able to understand detail.

Well you'd think a very intelligent person would known that 0% of women have penises, but Sir Keir says 1% of them do. So either he's not as clever as he seems, or he's a liar.

Quite. And as a top flight barrister he would also know how telling lies damages the credibility of the person telling them. Yet, here were are, and it leaves me thinking, if he is willing to lie about this, what else will he lie about.

Floisme · 03/02/2024 17:36

duc748 · 03/02/2024 16:48

Nightmare scenario: Labour has the most seats, but no overall majority, needs the support of SNP, Greens, Plaid.... 🙁

This is currently the only argument that might yet persuade me to vote Labour.

EdithStourton · 03/02/2024 17:43

Floisme · 03/02/2024 17:36

This is currently the only argument that might yet persuade me to vote Labour.

Ditto.
I'm not impressed by Kier Starmer, though. I know someone who has a squirrel that visits their garden. He spends a lot of his time on the fence so they refer to him as Kier.

ResisterRex · 03/02/2024 17:43

Edith 😂

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DeeLusional · 03/02/2024 17:47

Floisme · 03/02/2024 17:36

This is currently the only argument that might yet persuade me to vote Labour.

F*ck me NO, The SNP and Greens passed the GRR self ID in Scotland! Only time EVER I was glad of Westminster's veto.

JanesLittleGirl · 03/02/2024 17:52

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Chersfrozenface · 03/02/2024 17:52

DeeLusional · 03/02/2024 17:47

F*ck me NO, The SNP and Greens passed the GRR self ID in Scotland! Only time EVER I was glad of Westminster's veto.

But Westminster's veto was invoked by a Tory government..

Scottish Labour whipped in favour of the GRR Bill.

Yeah, we could have Labour gender batshittery or Labour + Green + SNP + Plaid gender batshitttery. What a marvellous choice.

ResisterRex · 03/02/2024 17:55

"The Labour Party has followed the US White House in recruiting a new senior digital role which will build relationships with famous content creators on TikTok, X and Instagram ahead of the next general election.
The Digital Creators Lead role – advertised on the Labour Party's official website over the weekend – will last for the duration of the general election campaign to "amplify" the party's message "with key voters"."

www.politicshome.com/news/article/labour-follows-white-house-build-relationships-content-creators

Does the job involve videos with WILD STARES? Cos I know a guy

👀

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ArabellaScott · 03/02/2024 17:59

duc748 · 03/02/2024 16:48

Nightmare scenario: Labour has the most seats, but no overall majority, needs the support of SNP, Greens, Plaid.... 🙁

Gngnghh

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/02/2024 18:34

Winnading · 03/02/2024 16:23

And stupid or liar is not what I would call potential leader of the UK.

But yanno, you do you Adam.

Yep - we've had a liar in Johnson and an idiot in Truss.

We aren't going to vote for another one just because he's a different political colour.

Lessons have been learned . . .

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/02/2024 18:35

ResisterRex · 03/02/2024 17:55

"The Labour Party has followed the US White House in recruiting a new senior digital role which will build relationships with famous content creators on TikTok, X and Instagram ahead of the next general election.
The Digital Creators Lead role – advertised on the Labour Party's official website over the weekend – will last for the duration of the general election campaign to "amplify" the party's message "with key voters"."

www.politicshome.com/news/article/labour-follows-white-house-build-relationships-content-creators

Does the job involve videos with WILD STARES? Cos I know a guy

👀

😂

DeeLusional · 03/02/2024 19:17

Chersfrozenface · 03/02/2024 17:52

But Westminster's veto was invoked by a Tory government..

Scottish Labour whipped in favour of the GRR Bill.

Yeah, we could have Labour gender batshittery or Labour + Green + SNP + Plaid gender batshitttery. What a marvellous choice.

Uh?That was a "Fuck me no" to Labour Greens SNP. What did you think I meant?

Floisme · 03/02/2024 19:20

duc748 · 03/02/2024 16:48

Nightmare scenario: Labour has the most seats, but no overall majority, needs the support of SNP, Greens, Plaid.... 🙁

I also believe that, if that were to happen then Starmer would be a goner, and much as he annoys me, the thought of Angela Rayner stepping up to take over a hung parliament does little to settle my nerves. There's still a lot to think about.

SinnerBoy · 03/02/2024 19:39

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SinnerBoy · 03/02/2024 19:53

Actually, I do get you, Adam but we're cynical. You want to believe that Starmer's Labour mean what they say, without obfuscation and it would be great if they did.

On the other hand, many of them have shown that they put transw front and centre and refuse to support GC women, even their own members, who've said what they think. Rosie Duffield's monstering at the hands of Russel-Moyle in the HoC, for example. His assertion that it's wrong to say that only women have cervices, 1% of women have penises, for example.

The white livered fuck should have drummed Russel-Moyle out of the party, but he did the square root of fuck all.

He may say that he wants to protect women, but based on a number of his previous drivellings and actions, many have concluded that he meas that penis women will be priorities and actual women will be a distant afterthought.

AdamRyan · 03/02/2024 20:00

SinnerBoy · 03/02/2024 19:53

Actually, I do get you, Adam but we're cynical. You want to believe that Starmer's Labour mean what they say, without obfuscation and it would be great if they did.

On the other hand, many of them have shown that they put transw front and centre and refuse to support GC women, even their own members, who've said what they think. Rosie Duffield's monstering at the hands of Russel-Moyle in the HoC, for example. His assertion that it's wrong to say that only women have cervices, 1% of women have penises, for example.

The white livered fuck should have drummed Russel-Moyle out of the party, but he did the square root of fuck all.

He may say that he wants to protect women, but based on a number of his previous drivellings and actions, many have concluded that he meas that penis women will be priorities and actual women will be a distant afterthought.

Lloyd Russell Moyle is awful and if I lived in his constituency there is no way I'd be voting for him