Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

[ResisterRex]

Exclusive in Diva, following a reception at a LGBT+ Labour event in Parliament on 29 Jan:

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

"“We’ll strengthen the law, so every category of hate crime is treated as an aggravated offence,” Starmer said. “We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care. We’ll modernise the Gender Recognition Act. We’ll implement a full, trans-inclusive, ban on all forms of conversion therapy. We fully support the view that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging abuse.”

“We are committed to a decade of national renewal and will work with all the organisations in this room tonight so every child can feel proud and confident in who they are, to stand up for LGBT+ rights at home and abroad and to get Britain’s future back.”

The mention of children is unclear but must have a background to the full speech? LGBT Labour hasn't tweeted about it but others have. Rayner and Dodds also in attendance.

https://x.com/djrm94/status/1752057964767101041?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/stevenatkins/status/1752256944843162016?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/anuox/status/1752094930074325420?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care.

I've been thinking about this.

Being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender is not a medical condition. Nor a mental health condition.

LGB people within this group have no specific medical or mental health needs that would set them apart from the rest of the population as far as I am aware.

So he's really only referring to those transgender people who are taking hormone medication or having surgical interventions. But because being transgender is not a medical or mental health condition, why is this being funded by the NHS, let alone being made a priority?

It would make more sense to prioritise people who have an actual medical condition such as people with disabilities, people in chronic pain and people with life threatening illness on so called 'fast track' lists. Obviously this would include all those LGBT people with actual medical needs.

It would make more sense to prioritise people who have an actual medical condition such as people with disabilities, people in chronic pain and people with life threatening illness on so called 'fast track' lists.

Just like it would make sense to divert some of that fat DEI budget that every company and NGO has towards people in wheelchairs, people with impaired sight or hearing, etc etc, rather than painting rainbows all over. But you don't get to be a Champion doing that.

I cannot see what policies Labour have or are likely to effect if they get power that will make it worth while selling women's rights and children's safeguarding down the river

Starmer is very gung ho about the genocide in Gaza, despite the images of women and children being carpet-bombed and despite being a human rights lawyer who knows that collective punishment is a war crime, so why would you expect him to have more compassion for British women and children?

Yes I do also agree about this automatic sheep like behaviour and lack of critical thinking with regard to Labour/left approaches to this, and how this has impacted on our public institutions . I mean I’ve been there myself. Until I really questioned and had my eyes opened, I too tended to be of the Tory bad Labour good lazy mindset. And as someone who will never vote Tory because of other policies, its unsettling to say the least to be agreeing with, say, Kemi Badenoch as I don’t cheer her general political stance, but fully support her approach to this issue.

I do still think that the Tories could have done more sooner and thus must take responsibility for this, but I also see that it’s only relatively recently that more light has been shone on these issues with more and more people saying hang on a minute. And Labour need to wake up and listen.

😂
This week Kemi said she didn't agree with plotters trying to oust Sunak, then was found to be part of a WhatsApp group called "Evil Plotters"!!
How would you know what she actually believes?

So says the Guardian

But given that the Graun is now far from trustworthy, I'd want to see proof.

The first time I read that description by Dodds of the GRA/EQA as 'one of Labour’s crowning achievements... of any period' (linked upthread) I didn't take much notice. I was too busy trying to unravel the rest of what she was saying, particularly what she meant about modernising and simplifying the GRA, and how that might relate to single sex spaces. But in the absence of any further clarification, I've kept on going back to that statement.

I find it really quite something that Dodds and (as she was writing in her shadow ministerial capacity) the Labour party might regard that legislation as up there with, let's say, the creation of the NHS, the original Sex Discrimination Act or the minimum wage. But it appears that they do. And as long as that is their mindset, I'm despondent that they will ever acknowledge the problems, let alone try and rectify them.

'A pleasure to join@Keir_Starmer
and@LGBTLabour
to mark LGBT+ History Month. While Tory politicians descend into the gutter, Labour is steadfast in our support for LGBT+ people. Together we'll ban conversion therapy, strengthen hate crime laws and tackle health inequalities.'

Dodds, an hour ago on X.

And I see it's not going too well on Twitter for Dodds. This is what happens when you try and ride two horses at once.

and I’m assuming when Labour talk about conversion therapy, they take the stonewall definition ie only gender affirming therapy is allowed - no discussion or exploration of why someone maybe believe they are the opposite sex

Who the fuck knows, innocenteyeballs? Words don't seem to mean anything much at all to the Labour high head yins.

I was in a WhatsApp group called secret squirrels

i am not a squirrel

Yup.

Also, this We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care is basically saying if you are a lesbian or gay man or bisexual you will get prioritised for NHS health care. I know that is not what he means, but I can't rate a politician who speaks so inaccurately.

‘Evil plotters’ made me laugh

Does ‘Lottery winners’ work in same way

I want to know why Kemi being 'allegedly' plotting to oust Sunak means that she's not doing the right thing by women? Quite bizarre.

Edited for major typo!

God i hope so

i may need to start that one…

The Guardian headline really doesn't match the "exclusive" content. At all.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/29/kemi-badenoch-member-evil-plotters-tory-whatsapp-group

I can see Michael Gove's point (not words I ever expected to write). Having a black female Prime Minister who is committed to ensuring women have single sex spaces and not harming children would really piss the Labour Party off, it would make their failures to protect women and children from gender ideology even more visible, wouldn't it?

Its being reported everywhere cher amd she hasn't denied it

Kemi saying she's not a plotter, while being a member of a group about plotting and allegedly actually plotting shows she's not reliable.

My issue is the constant characterisation of Conservative MPs as trustworthy and "standing up for women", despite all the mountains of evidence that there is a culture of lying in the party and over 13 years they have pursued numerous policies that have actively harmed women. I think its a calculated move to use this board to exaggerate a wedge issue to the benefit of the Conservative party.

People can vote for who they want but they need to be informed and this "at least the Conservatives know what a woman is!!@!" posting is not an accurate reflection of what's actually being pursued.

When the Conservatives have an agreed policy, or even better an item in the King's speech, about protecting women's rights I'll pay attention. At the moment they are all talk, no action and they have the majority to take whatever action they wanted.

Yes, because the point of government is to piss off the opposition.
Heaven forbid they actually did something for the benefit of the people in the country. Its all about who's big dog.

But in the meantime you will vote for a party who is being unequivocal about what it feels about women.

I actually believe Kemi on this, why would she lie about it?

What IS unbelievable is that Starmer , a human rights lawyer no less, has seen the adverse affects that Labour enacted laws have had on vulnerable women and couldn't care less about vulnerable women. I don't care that you think that Labour = good and worthy and virtuous. They have lost my trust.

The fact that I can't abide some of the Tory policies either shows how we, as a society but particularly women, are being failed by party politics.

Adam, but I think “ committed ensuring women have single-sex spaces, and not harming children” counts as doing something. I concede it’s a low bar, but apparently one Kier isn’t prepared to rise to

FFS Adam, if Kemi becomes PM it won't be to piss Labour off.

The fact that it will be an embarrassment to Labour is 100% down to THEIR failings.

Yep