Jane Clare Jones on purity spirals

[IamSarah]

Really insightful post on X the platform formally known as Twitter I feel it's worth sharing on here:

x.com/janeclarejones/status/1745760345954689255?s=46&t=NGJBRqkXgp1UazF5I8yjXA

The court case is about securing the option of single sex rape crisis therapy for all women. Left wing women, right wing women, extremely fucking scathing women.

It's not supporting me as a person it's supporting women.

Is that… I mean I’m not clued up but that’s really catty if I read it right.

On a separate note- your campaign is vital, I was and am disgusted about what you went through and fully support your fight.

And thank you for it. I’m sorry it’s necessary.

Surely it would have been better to be more selective about who was permitted to donate?

Just because it might ultimately benefit all women doesn't mean you have to accept financial help from all women. I mean, suppose there is money in the fund from Christian nationalists?

I think that's very unfair. Tinsel can scare the crap out of me sometimes (no I don't know her!) but that's because her focus is on a group of women whose needs have been shamefully neglected by some other feminist campaigners. From where I'm sitting, she fights for them like a lioness.

I'm less of a fan of JCJ than I used to be but, if she has your back in the same way that Tinsel has the trans widows' backs then I'm pleased for you,

Is it still active?

And I have mentioned that the sin page listing the sins of a women's rights campaigner is still very much active on the group who held this event. You know the event with an esteemed man who uses female single sex spaces AND supports that they remain single sex (obviously for him) and who gives guidance to children who feel they are trans. So you, know, actively harms woman and children, yet was esteemed enough to be celebrated by this group and then defended.

Yet, some of that group are active on that fb page. AND that sin page is still very much active.

The hypocrisy is rife.

Is that an attempt at humour or do you really believe what you've just written?

If it's the latter you really do need to give your head a wobble and look at the behaviour of your mates.

Tinsel is not like them.

Oh there's a transcript on here:

fiftyshadesofgender.com/katy/

Christian nationalists also deserve the option of single sex rape crisis therapy, should they need it.

Yes, I’ve just had a look. Although to be fair I was several posts down before I found one having a go at KJK.

I read the thread @GailBlancheViola and, as everyone who reads the thread can see, @TinselAngel was really snide. She's always pretty horrible imo, but then I only know her on here. Maybe she's lovely in real life. I very much doubt it.

Feeling a bit warm and fuzzy about how scary I apparently am.

I haven’t rtft but thank you for this

It must be taking a lot and it is for women

Thanks for @ing me to insult me, but there's no need. I'm on the thread already.

It feels like she is unable to say a nice word about other feminists, or support their campaigns, unless they absolutely share her world view.

This statement is absolutely priceless isn't it Hellofabore.

Tinsel stands up for and represents a group of women who have been through hell and who get ignored by a large chunk of the feminist movement. In what sense is that horrible?

Have you read some of the stories on here? https://www.transwidowsvoices.org/

I mean it's demonstrably untrue. Eg I've always supported other trans widows and published their stories even when I know their politics are very far from my own.

You are terrifying @TinselAngel but it’s because you are resolutely uncompromising and spot the flaws in everyone’s posts. And you don’t soften your statements. which is admirable.

When I first arrived on FWR I was totally shocked at women being resolutely uncompromising and plain spoken. It was shockingly unfamiliar. I had to learn to appreciate it!

<curtsies>

And? What does this have to do with you accepting their money?

What was it you quoted? Ah yes,

From my, and many other people's observation, over the last couple of years, the UK GC space, especially on twitter, has progressively merged with both the US MAGA/Christian nationalist space, and those of UK white nationalists.

Make JCJ proud and take a stand. You could restrict donations to only those who have correctly answered a multiple-choice test, designed to filter out any people with undesirable political affiliations.

Christian nationalists also deserve the option of single sex rape crisis therapy, should they need it.

They do indeed on that we are agreed. Are they entitled to campaign for this provision without being traduced, sneered at, derided, name called and ridiculed by the pure, unsullied ones though?

I'd really like to know how you can make this statement : It feels like she is unable to say a nice word about other feminists, or support their campaigns, unless they absolutely share her world view when you know and have seen how JCJ and others have treated and smeared other campaigners.

I mean it's demonstrably untrue. Eg I've always supported other trans widows and published their stories even when I know their politics are very far from my own.

Amazing isn't it @TinselAngel how that can be done.

Remarkable.

Tinsel I value your direct and blunt approach enormously. It is very rare to find someone who is forthright and honest. And yes, sometimes it's a bit startling, if only because especially women are socialised to appease and fudge and be nice and kind.

Thank fuck you are here and I'm very glad of it.

And this post is an example of your conciliatory and uplifting people skills, is it?