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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jane Clare Jones on purity spirals

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IamSarah · 12/01/2024 11:26

Really insightful post on X the platform formally known as Twitter I feel it's worth sharing on here:

x.com/janeclarejones/status/1745760345954689255?s=46&t=NGJBRqkXgp1UazF5I8yjXA

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:20

I'm sure KJW is thoroughly enjoying all this.

AdamRyan · 12/01/2024 18:26

nothingcomestonothing · 12/01/2024 14:00

the UK GC space, especially on twitter, has progressively merged with both the US MAGA/Christian nationalist space, and those of UK white nationalists.

Is that true? I've never had a Twi/X account so I don't know if that is a big thing, a bit of a thing or not even slightly a thing, but it does sound a lot like an accusation commonly used by TRAs, they we're all in the pay of 'the religious right' (which isn't even a thing in the UK). I'd be interested in the options of Twit/X users here.

I think there are big overlaps yes.
Look at Miriam Cates for example. White evangelical Christian, "darling of the right", links to the Nat Con movement and American right

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:27

You can read a transcript on the video but there doesn't seem to be any way of saving it. So far KJW has said he's been "every letter of LGBTQIA" at some time or another 🙄 don't think I can listen to much of it though.

TinselAngel · 12/01/2024 18:28

I think you'll have to come up with more than just one Tory MP.

TinselAngel · 12/01/2024 18:28

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:27

You can read a transcript on the video but there doesn't seem to be any way of saving it. So far KJW has said he's been "every letter of LGBTQIA" at some time or another 🙄 don't think I can listen to much of it though.

He's been a lesbian?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:29

He obviously thinks so.

TinselAngel · 12/01/2024 18:31

You'd think Bindel, Stock, Sisters Salon etc wouldn't approve of him identifying as a lesbian.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:32

He talks about his wife leaving him, just skipping through the online transcript. As he tells it, he didn't password protect his cross dressed photos and one day his wife used his computer to look something up and saw them. She gave him an ultimatum, he didn't want to give it up so she divorced him.

AdamRyan · 12/01/2024 18:32

Floisme · 12/01/2024 16:51

Helen Lewis, if I recall correctly, said not so very long ago that Mumsnet was a cause of great sadness to her.

I'm not bringing that up purely to be snarky. Well OK I am partly because it pissed me off mightily, but I'm also suggesting that this kind of attitude reaches far beyond JCJ and Brighton, and that it's going to take rather more than a very long Twitter thread to fix it.

100% agree with her
FWR today is nothing like FWR of days gone by. What the heck is this thread about feminist infighting? Why is noone discussing the actual post (which I found very insightful?)

TinselAngel · 12/01/2024 18:33

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:32

He talks about his wife leaving him, just skipping through the online transcript. As he tells it, he didn't password protect his cross dressed photos and one day his wife used his computer to look something up and saw them. She gave him an ultimatum, he didn't want to give it up so she divorced him.

Finding out that way is very common for trans widows. Often women find photos of their husband wearing their clothes.

TheClogLady · 12/01/2024 18:35

AdamRyan · 12/01/2024 18:32

100% agree with her
FWR today is nothing like FWR of days gone by. What the heck is this thread about feminist infighting? Why is noone discussing the actual post (which I found very insightful?)

Because of the threads and threads of backstory going back at least 5 years.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:36

I'll type the bit out about the alphabet:

"In my past that when people say how do you identify I say well I am or have been every letter of LGBTQIA and P and some of those letters even have double meanings"

2.14 of video if anyone wants to listen

Floisme · 12/01/2024 18:36

AdamRyan · 12/01/2024 18:32

100% agree with her
FWR today is nothing like FWR of days gone by. What the heck is this thread about feminist infighting? Why is noone discussing the actual post (which I found very insightful?)

Having seen a number of your other posts, I am not interested in engaging with you. Have a nice evening.

tackytriceratops · 12/01/2024 18:36

P??

nothingcomestonothing · 12/01/2024 18:36

AdamRyan · 12/01/2024 18:26

I think there are big overlaps yes.
Look at Miriam Cates for example. White evangelical Christian, "darling of the right", links to the Nat Con movement and American right

As I said I'm not on twitter/X, do you have any links or screenshots of Cates' involvement with the American right please so I can understand her alliances?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:37

P??

Yes, I don't know whether he explains what he means later, but the simpering host didn't ask.

tackytriceratops · 12/01/2024 18:38

The 50 shades reference is ick imo.

TinselAngel · 12/01/2024 18:39

JCJ' thread is about "feminist infighting" is it not?

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 12/01/2024 18:40

Floisme · 12/01/2024 18:36

Having seen a number of your other posts, I am not interested in engaging with you. Have a nice evening.

Same here. However, I'll note here that I had a bet on with myself that AR would decry the modern state of FWR, as indeed came to pass.

Stakes were high: one chocolate bar!

IamSarah · 12/01/2024 18:43

So criticism of a tweet describing Went, Stock and Bindel as "three esteemed feminists" is misguided.

Three esteemed guests. NOT three esteemed feminists. There's a difference.

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nothingcomestonothing · 12/01/2024 18:46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:36

I'll type the bit out about the alphabet:

"In my past that when people say how do you identify I say well I am or have been every letter of LGBTQIA and P and some of those letters even have double meanings"

2.14 of video if anyone wants to listen

There is no 'P' acronym that I can think of that would mean a 'trans kid' should be around the person professing to be it...

TinselAngel · 12/01/2024 18:46

vimeo.com/42863210

Again I haven't watched but I'm told this film shows KJW in pink negligee messaging other similar men.

EmpressaurusOfTheSevenOceans · 12/01/2024 18:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/01/2024 18:37

P??

Yes, I don't know whether he explains what he means later, but the simpering host didn't ask.

Poly? Pan? I have other ideas but I think they’d get me deleted.

Any male who says he supports women only but also uses them on occasion is lying.

GailBlancheViola · 12/01/2024 18:48

Youdontgivemeflowers · 12/01/2024 18:03

I don’t know anyone In real life and I get the impression that you all know each other. I’ve no idea why Tinsel Angel keeps accusing the op of being snide. It doesn’t make any sense. it’s blatantly clear that @TinselAngel is being snide and @IamSarah is being genuine.

Seeing as you've admitted you don't know either poster how did you come to that conclusion?

RandySavage · 12/01/2024 18:49

That Deptford Women’s Project letter is interesting and depressing.

I don’t mean to derail, but does anyone know what happened afterwards?

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