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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Henning Wehn...getting there slowly

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RoyalCorgi · 11/12/2023 08:04

Come on, Henning! You can do it!

https://twitter.com/henningwehn/status/1733973228324843632

https://twitter.com/henningwehn/status/1733973228324843632

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Waitingfordoggo · 11/12/2023 13:58

I think someone found this blokes Pinterest, which is full of sissy porn?

Well, colour me surprised. Late-transitioning male making zero effort to actually appear to be anything approaching female + Green Party = seedy sexual interests.

Quite apart from anything else, it’s staggering that this person is a political candidate. He is so incredibly inarticulate. Comes across as just having grabbed some overused words and phrases from the TRA community: ‘gaslighting…dog whistle…most marginalised’ and attempted to string them together into some sentences. He is saying absolutely nothing of any substance. How depressing that this is the calibre of politicians these day.

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 14:05

Come now. He has done a lot of litter picks. Hopefully not in the French Maid outfit.

WitchyWitcherson · 11/12/2023 14:14

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 14:05

Come now. He has done a lot of litter picks. Hopefully not in the French Maid outfit.

vacuuming freddie mercury GIF

Or dressed as Freddie Mercury 😂

Woman2023 · 11/12/2023 14:18

Datun · 11/12/2023 09:20

I keep thinking this will be the tipping point, oh wait no, this will, and it never is.

But I actually think this will!

There comes a point that not having an opinion about this, and a critical one at that, actually makes you look worse.

We will definitely reach a tipping point but don't underestimate people's ability to find "ah but" type arguments.

My dad (85, still of the best kind persuasion but agrees re sports) saw this man and laughed.

He then asked how unpleasant the MP was being, I.e. was she punching down?

I thought this was a fascinating response because he can see the issue, but if this man persists in identifying as a woman and gets a bit more convincing he would then be considered a vulnerable minority like he claims to be.

pronounsbundlebundle · 11/12/2023 15:12

This man is abusive. Using his ex-wife's name? Stalkerish appropriation with intent to cause distress and fear, I'd say. Surely harassment?

Of course no doubt the police won't bother finding out to what extent he's harassing his ex wife because she's an XX woman.

DerekFaker · 11/12/2023 15:49

Oh ffs! Two years ago they were a Conservative party member called Matthew Viner

https://twitter.com/leakylike/status/1733800906095759614?t=gNveoirV1GkdmRhueppLvQ&s=19

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MrsTwatInAHat · 11/12/2023 15:51

Not disagreeing with Henning, but I'm not sure why this particular completely unconvincing man in a dress is the one to suddenly test the credulity - I've seen loads and loads like this before. They're all over tik tok, lesbian apps and claiming to be women when charged with sex offences. Those pic collections of TW who've been convicted of sex offences always look similar. I don't know how anyone can think Karen White for example is a "real" TW but this person isn't? What about that Alex Drummond one or Danielle Muscato, the ones who look 100% like men and don't even bother with a wig?

Maybe this is how the tipping point will function, with people suddenly finding themselves able to say "Oh come on now THAT's not a woman is it!?" when we've all been told we have to say they are a woman up till now, whatever they look like.

And I don't think a TW who "passes" is a woman either, so it's a bit of a red herring. Being able to do a convincing impersonation of a different race form your own, a person with cerebral palsy when you don't have it, a security guard when you're not one etc or even lying convincingly about your age, doesn't mean you should be accepted as a category you are not, and people don't seem to struggle with that idea in those situations.

RiotAndAlarum · 11/12/2023 16:02

Woman2023 · 11/12/2023 14:18

We will definitely reach a tipping point but don't underestimate people's ability to find "ah but" type arguments.

My dad (85, still of the best kind persuasion but agrees re sports) saw this man and laughed.

He then asked how unpleasant the MP was being, I.e. was she punching down?

I thought this was a fascinating response because he can see the issue, but if this man persists in identifying as a woman and gets a bit more convincing he would then be considered a vulnerable minority like he claims to be.

This is really important, because it seems any pushback is still contingent on how much someone is taking the piss.

Homeschoolin · 11/12/2023 16:12

Villagetoraiseachild · 11/12/2023 11:37

Also, wondering what is this appropriation of his ex wife's maiden name about?
Didn't Eddie Izzard claim the name Susie from an ex girlfriend?
And I remember a case on here from America of a transing man in prison claiming a murdered partner's name.
I mean it could be argued it's in the spirit of tribute but it feels a lot creepier than that.

Yes, I was going to make this point earlier, I had heard of a few cases of TW doing similar eg using their wife's name, copying their hair / make up / clothes etc. I had forgotten one of those was Izzard! 😂I can't fathom the psychology behind it; ffs just move on with your life! So bizarre and definitely disturbing.

StephanieSuperpowers · 11/12/2023 16:14

I've seen it referred to as "skinwalking", which sounds grim.

IcakethereforeIam · 11/12/2023 16:15

I think one if the Henning Wehn jokes upthread is taking the piss out of people who try to identify into oppression. So, not 100% removed from the other subject of this thread.

My eyebrows have lifted so high it's entirely possible they're no longer in our solar system.

It's odd when a man says he doesn't want to be transphobic but...., he seems to get a completely different reaction to a woman saying the same thing. Like, to pluck a name out of the ether, Roisin Murphy.

Brewdug · 11/12/2023 16:30

IcakethereforeIam · 11/12/2023 16:15

I think one if the Henning Wehn jokes upthread is taking the piss out of people who try to identify into oppression. So, not 100% removed from the other subject of this thread.

My eyebrows have lifted so high it's entirely possible they're no longer in our solar system.

It's odd when a man says he doesn't want to be transphobic but...., he seems to get a completely different reaction to a woman saying the same thing. Like, to pluck a name out of the ether, Roisin Murphy.

Yes I was thinking this. IIRC Amanda Abbington said basically the same thing once a few years back, and we know she is still copping for it.

Treaclewell · 11/12/2023 17:44

Can't for privacy reasons for someone else. It wasn't just the eyebrow, words were used. By a female, complaint by trans. It won't be searchable, not in public domain.

DerekFaker · 11/12/2023 17:49

Interesting hashtag trending at the moment.

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MsMcGonagall · 11/12/2023 18:20

I just came to say this - hashtag BlokeInAWig is trending on X (twitter)

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 18:39

It's interesting to see that trending.

Just advise caution because with many of the images it's not the wig that first jumps out at one.

Datun · 11/12/2023 18:41

Datun · 11/12/2023 10:44

The obvious majority reaction, is, but that's just a bloke in a dress. So what's going to be interesting, is the conversations that arise from that.

"That's just a bloke in a dress"

They're all just blokes in dresses

"What about the ones who have surgery?"

What, the 5%?

For the avoidance of doubt, of course a man without penis is not a woman. They're all blokes. And no bloke should be in a women's space. Ever.

But telling the general public exactly how many transwoman are fully intact heterosexual men interested in sexual relationships with women and girls is a bit of an eye opener.

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 18:44

MrsTwatInAHat · 11/12/2023 15:51

Not disagreeing with Henning, but I'm not sure why this particular completely unconvincing man in a dress is the one to suddenly test the credulity - I've seen loads and loads like this before. They're all over tik tok, lesbian apps and claiming to be women when charged with sex offences. Those pic collections of TW who've been convicted of sex offences always look similar. I don't know how anyone can think Karen White for example is a "real" TW but this person isn't? What about that Alex Drummond one or Danielle Muscato, the ones who look 100% like men and don't even bother with a wig?

Maybe this is how the tipping point will function, with people suddenly finding themselves able to say "Oh come on now THAT's not a woman is it!?" when we've all been told we have to say they are a woman up till now, whatever they look like.

And I don't think a TW who "passes" is a woman either, so it's a bit of a red herring. Being able to do a convincing impersonation of a different race form your own, a person with cerebral palsy when you don't have it, a security guard when you're not one etc or even lying convincingly about your age, doesn't mean you should be accepted as a category you are not, and people don't seem to struggle with that idea in those situations.

Perhaps because he's A Green Party candidate, taking part in events for the 50:50 representing women in politics thing?

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RoyalCorgi · 11/12/2023 18:57

Look at the ratio on the LGBTIAQ+ tweet about this person. 227,100 views and 304 likes.

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HipTightOnions · 11/12/2023 19:13

Peter Tatchell has leapt to the fair Melissa's defence.

Wetandhorrible · 11/12/2023 19:40

StephanieSuperpowers · 11/12/2023 16:14

I've seen it referred to as "skinwalking", which sounds grim.

"it puts the lotion on the sling,else it gets the hose again". For some reason this quote just popped into my head

Wetandhorrible · 11/12/2023 19:46

HipTightOnions · 11/12/2023 19:13

Peter Tatchell has leapt to the fair Melissa's defence.

Surely Tatchells previous writings on minors is more and more wildly known,so not sure his support makes the impact it used to. Especially to such an obvious Málaga man

LondonLass91 · 11/12/2023 19:54

MsMcGonagall · 11/12/2023 18:20

I just came to say this - hashtag BlokeInAWig is trending on X (twitter)

Oh yeah it's actually hilarious!

LondonLass91 · 11/12/2023 20:00

Bloke in a wig trending on X Green Party are batshit crazy

Henning Wehn...getting there slowly