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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Henning Wehn...getting there slowly

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RoyalCorgi · 11/12/2023 08:04

Come on, Henning! You can do it!

https://twitter.com/henningwehn/status/1733973228324843632

https://twitter.com/henningwehn/status/1733973228324843632

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NoNoNanette · 11/12/2023 11:20

Sorry, Henning Wehn is a TWAT. We had a friend over from the States and we showed her a recording we had made of a TV show of his. He told among others, two 'jokes' - the first was the 'My grandfather died in a concentration camp, too, he fell off a watchtower when he was drunk', and the other was 'In Germany we have to be horrible to the Muslims because there aren't any Jews left'. Our friend was totally flabbergasted that such humour was acceptable in the UK, and, so, after reflection were we. Couldn't feel the same about HW. It was like a mask had slipped.

Villagetoraiseachild · 11/12/2023 11:24

Thank you Henning, politely and truthfully stated.

Villagetoraiseachild · 11/12/2023 11:37

Also, wondering what is this appropriation of his ex wife's maiden name about?
Didn't Eddie Izzard claim the name Susie from an ex girlfriend?
And I remember a case on here from America of a transing man in prison claiming a murdered partner's name.
I mean it could be argued it's in the spirit of tribute but it feels a lot creepier than that.

RoyalCorgi · 11/12/2023 11:37

NoNoNanette · 11/12/2023 11:20

Sorry, Henning Wehn is a TWAT. We had a friend over from the States and we showed her a recording we had made of a TV show of his. He told among others, two 'jokes' - the first was the 'My grandfather died in a concentration camp, too, he fell off a watchtower when he was drunk', and the other was 'In Germany we have to be horrible to the Muslims because there aren't any Jews left'. Our friend was totally flabbergasted that such humour was acceptable in the UK, and, so, after reflection were we. Couldn't feel the same about HW. It was like a mask had slipped.

Bernard Manning used to use that watchtower joke so quite old.

I think you can make a case for dark humour in context - surely the context here is that he's attacking Germany's history of racism and antisemitism. Obviously very uncomfortable to read, though.

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ANameChangePresents · 11/12/2023 11:45

I agree. I think being disgusted by this is confusing the subject of the joke for the target of the joke.

The butt/target of the joke is German cultural attitudes towards minorities. As a German, I think he's entitled to make such a rebuke of his own culture. Up to the audience as to whether they consider the rebuke accurate.

WickedSerious · 11/12/2023 12:08

Datun · 11/12/2023 10:44

The obvious majority reaction, is, but that's just a bloke in a dress. So what's going to be interesting, is the conversations that arise from that.

"That's just a bloke in a dress"

They're all just blokes in dresses

"What about the ones who have surgery?"

What, the 5%?

My reaction to the surgery question would be that they're blokes in dresses too.

WitchyWitcherson · 11/12/2023 12:09

Also agree - the butt of the Muslim joke isn't Jews, it's historic (and recent) German racism. The falling off the watchtower joke is dark humour and I wouldn't say it's at the expense of Jewish people either - the first part invites you to feel sorry for the comedian and then the second 'allows' you to laugh because the person dying was a Nazi.

As with all artforms, it's subjective though. And you have a right to feel upset and object to what he said.

Bobbotgegrinch · 11/12/2023 12:11

NoNoNanette · 11/12/2023 11:20

Sorry, Henning Wehn is a TWAT. We had a friend over from the States and we showed her a recording we had made of a TV show of his. He told among others, two 'jokes' - the first was the 'My grandfather died in a concentration camp, too, he fell off a watchtower when he was drunk', and the other was 'In Germany we have to be horrible to the Muslims because there aren't any Jews left'. Our friend was totally flabbergasted that such humour was acceptable in the UK, and, so, after reflection were we. Couldn't feel the same about HW. It was like a mask had slipped.

Both of those are jokes at the expense of Germans. Given that he's German himself, I can't see the issue personally.

WitchyWitcherson · 11/12/2023 12:13

Also - every single famous person will have done at least one thing that's considered awful by at least one group of people. Which is why cancel culture is bollocks; literally nobody is perfect.

However, if someone is particularly awful e.g. Jim Davidson, they will end up 'cancelling' themselves as people will be turned off from watching them (as opposed to being told to not watch them without thought which is what cancel culture is).

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 12:23

Ah. Green Party.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 11/12/2023 12:27

in September he wrote about cancel culture at the Edinburgh Fringe

https://www.henningwehn.de/news/

AlecTrevelyan006 · 11/12/2023 12:28

Moving on, this August I got more than my usual share of good weather as I wasn’t at the Edinburgh Fringe for the first time since 2004. Well, there was the Boris and Nicola enforced break in 2020 but let’s try and forget about that one.

Just like last year, this year’s Fringe has been a battleground of the ‘culture war’. Whereas last year Jerry Sadowitz’s run got cancelled after one show, it got even more ridiculous this time round when Father Ted writer Graham Linehan’s one-off appearance got cancelled before he even got up there. From what I understand it was over his opinions on men in skirts, a very delicate subject in Scotland at the best of times.

Bemusingly the cancellation was celebrated by a good number of performers. As a rule of thumb: cheering when someone isn’t allowed to sell tickets when your business model relies on being allowed to sell tickets is rather short-sighted. For all you know it’s you next.
I said as much on social media, which led to an avalanche of replies. Half the people tried to convince me that if a man puts on a skirt they must be a paedophile and the other half informed me if a man puts on a skirt they become a woman. There wasn’t a single reply along the lines of “If a man puts on a skirt, they’re a man who has put a skirt on and that’s that”.

PriOn1 · 11/12/2023 12:36

Half the people tried to convince me that if a man puts on a skirt they must be a paedophile

Not sure which social media you’re on, but this isn’t a scenario I recognize from any social media platforms I’ve used.

Or are you quoting someone? I can’t actually tell from your post.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 11/12/2023 12:44

PriOn1 · 11/12/2023 12:36

Half the people tried to convince me that if a man puts on a skirt they must be a paedophile

Not sure which social media you’re on, but this isn’t a scenario I recognize from any social media platforms I’ve used.

Or are you quoting someone? I can’t actually tell from your post.

It’s a quote from Henning Wehn

DerekFaker · 11/12/2023 12:47

People like this in the replies just make themselves look ridiculous:

Henning Wehn...getting there slowly
Chersfrozenface · 11/12/2023 12:48

AlecTrevelyan006 · 11/12/2023 12:44

It’s a quote from Henning Wehn

So a quote from a comedian making things up for effect.

Right

WitchyWitcherson · 11/12/2023 12:54

DerekFaker · 11/12/2023 12:47

People like this in the replies just make themselves look ridiculous:

I saw that 😂I have never met a woman that looks, sounds, acts or even comes close to Melissa Poulton - not sure who Tom Mead is hanging out with!

agent765 · 11/12/2023 13:33

This man making such a fuss should be shooting himself in the foot.

Surely voters on at least some level know a man donning a frock and wig and then taking his ex-wife's maiden name is not the type of man they should be putting in power?

I listened to his whinge-fest and without a doubt heard a man.

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 13:45

SabrinaThwaite · 11/12/2023 12:34

I think someone found this blokes Pinterest, which is full of sissy porn?

Bet his ex-wife is delighted that he’s now using her maiden name.

https://reduxx.info/uk-transgender-greens-candidate-reportedly-shared-sissification-porn-content-on-social-media-board/

WTF.

Oh, FFS.

Every bloody time I try to give the benefit of the doubt ...

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 13:47

Here is the archive of his Pinterest page. NSFW content. Porn and 'sissy' content.

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 13:48

https://archive.ph/5s3G0

ArthurbellaScott · 11/12/2023 13:49

Another Green Party candidate.

MagpiePi · 11/12/2023 13:53

Datun · 11/12/2023 10:44

The obvious majority reaction, is, but that's just a bloke in a dress. So what's going to be interesting, is the conversations that arise from that.

"That's just a bloke in a dress"

They're all just blokes in dresses

"What about the ones who have surgery?"

What, the 5%?

“They’re blokes in dresses who have surgery”