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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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CrankyMerkin · 09/12/2023 17:30

KohlaParasaurus · 09/12/2023 16:36

This must be an impostor, because we're always being told that transwomen are gentle, harmless people who just want to live their lives quietly.

Female, my arse. The worst sort of male behaviour from a person living in a body that will always be 100% male.

Where's Useless when you need a handy guide to "transwoman" or "at it"?

forgotmyusername1 · 09/12/2023 17:32

theilltemperedclavecinist · 09/12/2023 14:44

The age, location, middle name and surname are all the same.

I am reading
Naomi O'brien
Morgan naomi Clark

forgotmyusername1 · 09/12/2023 17:37

OK. Have now read the link someone put to the status where it links the names

So fair enough complain away

Soontobe60 · 09/12/2023 17:39

forgotmyusername1 · 09/12/2023 17:32

I am reading
Naomi O'brien
Morgan naomi Clark

Look at the photos. It’s the same person.

Predatory woman who incited man to abuse child, 4 jailed
Predatory woman who incited man to abuse child, 4 jailed
pronounsbundlebundle · 09/12/2023 17:46

Whenever I hear about a female sex offender I just assume it's actually a man until there's really, really solid evidence otherwise. I've always been right so far.

Calling a man a woman is further abuse of the victim, and I refuse to be complicit in that.

Statistics and reality are on my side.

PronounssheRa · 09/12/2023 17:53

GMP have been community noted on twitter

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/1733080446672457775

How can any of us trust the police when they lie?

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/1733080446672457775

pronounsbundlebundle · 09/12/2023 18:03

PronounssheRa · 09/12/2023 17:53

GMP have been community noted on twitter

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/1733080446672457775

How can any of us trust the police when they lie?

I love the community notes so much.

They also illustrate how sinister it is that institutions like the police (that we pay for with our taxes) are lying to the public as well as further abusing the victims of these crimes with their lies.

BonfireLady · 09/12/2023 18:09

The last time a community note was added was during the Roisin Murphy news and unfortunately, a TRA pile-on of unhelpful ratings meant that it got taken down pretty swiftly.
If anyone is on Twitter and finds the community note helpful, it's worth popping on and rating it so that it stays in place.

ARichSeamToMine · 09/12/2023 18:11

TrainedByCats · 09/12/2023 14:55

if the BBC complaints process replies to your complaint saying they were following IPSO guidance it’s worth pointing out it is non-binding guidance it is not regulatory

This
it's a crap excuse for incorrect reporting and no one should be buying that.

Ardith · 09/12/2023 18:24

Please complain to the BBC. I have.

The complaints page is here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints

I used the "Factual error" category and also expressed concerns about political bias: in reporting male sexual violence as femal offending they are taking a political position that is hotly contested.

Complaints | Contact the BBC

These pages have information about how to complain to the BBC, with links to the BBC’s Complaints Framework, the BBC’s regulator Ofcom and regular reports about complaints. If you would like to understand how we collect and use personal data, please r...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints

guinnessguzzler · 09/12/2023 18:25

@pronounsbundlebundle 100%.

thankyouforthedayz · 09/12/2023 18:35

Even if the journalist wanted to follow the IPSO guidance and describe this convicted child sex offender as a woman, when plainly they are a male sexed transwoman, the use of the term 'predatory' is misleading and dishonest. Sexual predation is not a female crime, it's is resoundingly male. A 'predatory woman' is an oxymoron. THIS IS NOT OUR CRIME.

caramac04 · 09/12/2023 19:17

Man encourages another man to sexually abuse an innocent child and ruin child’s life.
There, that’s better although I’m there are even better headlines.
I hope Nathan is in a male prison.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 09/12/2023 20:16

"Look at the photos. It’s the same person."

with precisely how many names changes I wonder?

Boomboom22 · 09/12/2023 20:20

Have Kemi and the new home secretary been tweeted or whatever it is? I don't use sm.

Catiette · 09/12/2023 21:16

Have complained to GMP, too.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/12/2023 21:29

Have complained to BBC

exexpat · 09/12/2023 21:45

The lingerie shots on his instagram account (Morgan Naomi Clarke) make it pretty clear that he has not had surgery (or not 'bottom surgery' anyway). Definitely male.

NotBadConsidering · 09/12/2023 22:10

SerpentEndBench · 09/12/2023 11:57

Do we know to which prison this person has been sent?

Indeed, given the police have recorded him as a woman, it seems likely he will be in the prison system recorded as a woman.

Mollyollydolly · 09/12/2023 23:22

Not exactly defending the BBC, they're useless on this. However having worked in BBC newsrooms, it's extremely likely the journalist just lifted it from the Press Release from GMP. The wording is almost exactly the same. They may have thought it was a real woman and not even realised. They've just repeated it verbatim because they think the Police are a trusted source. More fool them. If that is what happened and I was that journalist I'd be bloody furious and bollocking the Press Officer at GMP for making me look like an idiot.

My fury this time is aimed at GMP. How bloody dare they gaslight us all (including the victim). Not to even call her a trans woman but a woman? Just feck off and then feck off some more.

Who do you complain to above GMP? They're bloody useless.

Mollyollydolly · 09/12/2023 23:34

Thanks.

duc748 · 09/12/2023 23:46

Chatting out the back of the pub tonight, having a smoke, someone mentioned the issue, and I happened to have the BBC report ready on my mobe 😀, and I said I said, what about this bollocks then? It's not a woman, it's a bloke, and of course, everyone said, of course, I hate this shit. And for sure, the vast majority of the GBP would agree.

Statementdress · 10/12/2023 00:12

The ‘predatory female’ bit is the part that jars most for me. It’s actually mis-leading.

why not just say ‘predator’ ?

I don’t know why statisticians can’t actually have a category for people’s birth sex in addition to their current one.

Always female- FF / men - MM / women ( born male) FM etc…

i read an article a few years on BBC that women sex offenders had quadrupled in last year and article claimed it wasn’t due to transgender offenders. Turns out that was utter bullshit and the ENTIRE increase was from transgender females.