Feminism, rape, and Israel. Content warning.

[ArthurbellaScott]

https://unherd.com/2023/11/metoo-unless-youre-a-jew/

I skipped parts of this article, specifically the first person account.

The rest of it I think is an important read.

Oh, god.

I’m so scared for the littlest- partly that they have been hurt, and partly that they may be assimilated. I’d be so afraid they didn’t know how to come home.

It’s too soon to despair of this baby though- she could be with a different group. It’s chaos there. I’m amazed they are managing to keep track of them at all.

There was a commentator on the radio saying this. That Hamas had expected the IDF to immediately follow them so there was a chaotic quick hiding of the hostages in many different places. So Hamas may be having trouble locating them all. It did make me think the hostages may have been taken more as lures and baits so that they could massacre the rescuing IDF forces.

Some of the hostages are in the hands of other Palestinian terrorists groups, and Hamas claims that they don't know where they are.I suspect that the hostages released today had been transferred to tunnels in the south of Gaza - hence the release across the Rafah crossing into Egypt.

Some weeks back I watched a man interviewed weeping with relief that his daughter had been found killed.

The barbarity is too much. I hope the released hostages are able somehow to heal.

I don't think you need to apologise @ArthurbellaScott because you're not just assuming one side is fully justified in whatever they do. Knowing your limits when reading about the details of atrocities is important.

However I do feel that those chanting or publicly proclaiming against Israel as the sole aggressor / oppressor (as opposed to the justified freedom fighter) in this war should have to watch. And then see if they hold to their position.

As I said before, I think these people are using Palestinians as a tool in their culture war. And it's not ok.

Also not ok is the Palestinian whose voice was silenced in that interview. The Palestinian people must feel under attack from everyone, IDF, Hamas and even western people proclaiming that they want to help them and propping up the terrorists who deliberately hide in their midst.

We know that many in Hamas live elsewhere. Various other countries and groups are using Palestine/Israel to play out proxy battles.

My heart aches for all the innocents caught up in it. Even this atheist prays for peace.

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I thought this has to be a mistake. Someone had fallen for a bad taste joke from, say, the Onion. But no, seems to be for real

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/124674

It is a very old paper though.

He said he was glad she was killed because he would rather that than she would be held hostage by Hamas in Gaza.

He found out a couple of weeks later that she was in fact alive and being held in Gaza.

The poor man, his story haunts me, tbh.

@PorcelinaV

Oh, come on. The Right do it all the damn time . Usually in favour of people who aren't in any way really victims I.e. abusive separated 'fathers'.

One can be justifiably angry about rape minimising without taking pot shots at " the left" in that snidey way.

Oh, I had not heard the update. Thank you. What a horrific situation.

What the "right does" isn't relevant to explaining the actions of feminist groups in this situation. I don't think it was a "snidey" comment.

@ArthurbellaScott the man was Thomas hand, his daughter is Emily Hand, I’ve been desperately hoping she is one of the hostages released in the next few days.

Released tonight thank G-d.

Thank you.

I just came to post that.

Good news

What a disgrace.

Hamas men were proudly parading the body of a woman they’d raped and murdered, spitting on her corpse on the back of a truck, before Israel declared war.

The paper further theorizes that Arab women in Judea and Samaria are not raped by IDF soldiers because the women are de-humanized in the soldiers' eyes.

I wish it was just a bad taste joke. As if rape somehow showed respect for women’s humanity.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0FN_IBNPvt/?igshid=ZDE1MWVjZGVmZQ==

an all female team of soldiers met the (women and children) hostages at the border.

I hope the hostages were spared sexual trauma.
Oh look...
UN Women are deeply alarmed
UN Women statement
The below twitter has happy videos of the returned hostagex
Hen Mazzig twitter

That UN statement is , well I have no words.

Bloody hell.

https://www.unwomen.org/en/news-stories/feature-story/2023/08/giving-a-voice-to-gender-based-violence-survivors-in-palestine

One on survivors of MVAWG in Palestine.