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Meet the new CEO of Endometriosis South Coast

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Maaate · 12/11/2023 20:52

I don't know why I'm surprised really

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/11/2023 11:21

Morred · 15/11/2023 11:12

Also, any sort of rudimentary background check (e.g. googling) on Steph would have warned of some PR concerns at the very least!

It's Jacob Breslaw all over again.

He and Steph are both rabid TRAs, and that's all the qualifications they need.

Mermaids behave like they're run by a couple of sixth formers, who don't understand how they're supposed to conduct themselves.

So, either they did do due diligence on Breslaw, and ignored what they discovered, or they didn't bother at all.

Same with Steph.

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 11:21

"Are these alternative facts??"

<Peers over glasses>

🤣😂

Need that as a meme with Emma

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 11:23

@CheeseChamp I felt Emma was quite kind to her at times and said that perhaps she should come back and talk about her research. I would like to see that happen. (I do wonder what the research is.)

This was a flaming of Steph

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 11:24

CaveMum · 15/11/2023 11:11

@CriticalCondition Sadly it’s pretty common for people who are highly academic to be totally lacking in common sense!

I could understand an apparent lack of common sense in someone academic but frankly she just sounded not very bright. I appreciate some PhD subjects will look like nonsense and a waste of time to us lesser mortals without one but I was under the illusion that you had to have at least some intellectual chops to do one however esoteric the subject might be.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/11/2023 11:25

Re: the PhD holders.

We witnessed several of them give evidence at Jo Phoenix's tribunal and every single one was an absolute shambles!

IcakethereforeIam · 15/11/2023 11:26

Reminds me of that bloke who was in Trump's cabinet who was a literal brain surgeon (apparently a very good one), but also thought the pyramids had been built to store grain.

CaveMum · 15/11/2023 11:27

I have no sympathy. You have to be shockingly stupid and/or naive to agree to go on a national radio show with countless millions of listeners without being able to justify and explain your position in clear and simple terms.

Jodie and Steph were not doorstopped or accosted in the street, they were invited and agreed to come on. They can’t cry “the big girl was mean to us” now.

fedupandstuck · 15/11/2023 11:28

I don't feel sorry for them at all, either Jodie or Steph. They could have said no to being invited on. They chose to do the interview. If you set up a charity that asks, in whatever way, for donations from the public and for grants from organisations - you are responsible for running that charity properly. You are accountable. If that's not something you can manage then don't go through the process of setting up a charity! Or get proper help to set it up.

I'd have no issue if this charity decided to change its remit and focus on helping non-binary female people and transmen with dealing with endo. It's niche but if that's who they are interested in supporting then fair enough.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/11/2023 11:29

fedupandstuck · 15/11/2023 11:28

I don't feel sorry for them at all, either Jodie or Steph. They could have said no to being invited on. They chose to do the interview. If you set up a charity that asks, in whatever way, for donations from the public and for grants from organisations - you are responsible for running that charity properly. You are accountable. If that's not something you can manage then don't go through the process of setting up a charity! Or get proper help to set it up.

I'd have no issue if this charity decided to change its remit and focus on helping non-binary female people and transmen with dealing with endo. It's niche but if that's who they are interested in supporting then fair enough.

Yesterday, Steph was boasting about being invited onto Women's Hour.

He's loving the attention/trolling.

Jodie sounds like she's a useful idiot.

Helleofabore · 15/11/2023 11:30

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 11:07

I always assumed you had to have a reasonable level of intellectual ability to do a PhD.
Jodie's performance in that interview has caused me to review that.

Having seen some posters who claim they have a PhD a thread topic and their lack of ability to present one skerrick of evidence or even a fact to defend their position, I don’t believe someone has to be highly intelligent to gain that qualifications.

Quite the contrary. Not only that but some posters with these supposed qualifications resort to very blatant emotional manipulation to try to convince. I suspect some people with this qualification have phd mentors that give huge assistance.

CheeseChamp · 15/11/2023 11:31

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 11:23

@CheeseChamp I felt Emma was quite kind to her at times and said that perhaps she should come back and talk about her research. I would like to see that happen. (I do wonder what the research is.)

This was a flaming of Steph

You're right, that was kind - would be very interested in hearing more about her research. The anger was all aimed at Steph. The cringe part for me was hearing the upset in Jodie's voice near the end. She had clearly realised what a horrible, terrible mistake she had made in doing this interview.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/11/2023 11:31

I think we have to get out of the mindset that "charity" is always all about well-being people just doing their bit. The Captain Tom debacle should be a lesson that people can use the guise of charity to promote themselves, earn a tonne of cash and promote their own agendas that are not benign.

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 11:33

She had clearly realised what a horrible, terrible mistake she had made in doing this interview.

Yes but I feel as the founder of a charity for a condition that affects women and has been terribly neglected, she needs to get her head around how angry women are about individuals like Steph and yet more gaslighting from everyone saying they're helping women . Or people rather 🙄

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 11:33

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/11/2023 11:31

I think we have to get out of the mindset that "charity" is always all about well-being people just doing their bit. The Captain Tom debacle should be a lesson that people can use the guise of charity to promote themselves, earn a tonne of cash and promote their own agendas that are not benign.

Oh I now know so many "charities" where it's not about the cause at all,

pickledandpuzzled · 15/11/2023 11:34

I was surprised by the threats Jodie received. Die in a fire is unusual from women. I did wonder if Steph had any such threats in their history. It would make an interesting comparison.

Flickersy · 15/11/2023 11:37

pickledandpuzzled · 15/11/2023 11:34

I was surprised by the threats Jodie received. Die in a fire is unusual from women. I did wonder if Steph had any such threats in their history. It would make an interesting comparison.

Sorry if I missed it, but I don't think she said it was from a woman.

CheeseChamp · 15/11/2023 11:38

The majority of charities are tiny and many are set up by someone affected by the issue. Somehow they get funding and grow beyond the ability for the founder to properly manage it, since they have no expertise in that. She said as much in the interview.

Government grant funding for charity needs to end. It enrages me that my local council is only just now talking about ending grant funding due to not being able to balance the budget, after what, nearly 15 years of cutting every other service for austerity. It is not a statutory service! If the cause is so important, people will give money to it. Beggar off using this money to inflate small-town peoples egos and give them a non job.

WoollyBat · 15/11/2023 11:39

I've met a lot of people with/doing PhDs who had no lights on upstairs at all. Since you can now do a PhD in gender studies consisting entirely of logic-free, evidence-free bolleaux, it could mean anything. (Though I've met surprisingly clueless people doing them in multiple other areas too)

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 11:42

I wonder if Steph's first thought on getting the invite was 'Ooh, Woman's Hour!' The validation must have be irresistible. And so bright and enticing the CEO didn't see or didn't care about the impending car crash.

Tinysoxxx · 15/11/2023 11:44

Charities need to be well run. To serve the people they aim to help. For that you need proper hiring processes and accountability.

GlomOfNit · 15/11/2023 11:46

Flickersy · 15/11/2023 10:43

Jodie is technically correct here to be fair. Men can suffer from endometriosis even if it is in very small numbers. I thought Emma wasn't being careful enough on that point but otherwise she was fantastic.

I've read this (are they men with a DSD, or is it just one of those freakish things, maybe because all humans were female in utero for the first few days?) but as far as I know it's a vanishingly tiny number. Interestingly, those potential male sufferers of endometriosis weren't the people Jodie/Steph were sticking up for though, were they? It was 'we're here for the trans men and non-binary people who have endo' (eg women).

ChishiyaBat · 15/11/2023 11:47

Damn I have some catching up to do on here after work!

pickledandpuzzled · 15/11/2023 11:49

GlomOfNit · 15/11/2023 11:46

I've read this (are they men with a DSD, or is it just one of those freakish things, maybe because all humans were female in utero for the first few days?) but as far as I know it's a vanishingly tiny number. Interestingly, those potential male sufferers of endometriosis weren't the people Jodie/Steph were sticking up for though, were they? It was 'we're here for the trans men and non-binary people who have endo' (eg women).

At the risk of sounding picky, Glom, embryos aren’t female until the male hormones kick in. They are undifferentiated - neither make more female- until the different genes are expressed, but male or female from day one regardless.
It’s that ‘men’s hormones are special, women are insufficientky developed men’ vibe again.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/11/2023 11:52

pickledandpuzzled · 15/11/2023 11:34

I was surprised by the threats Jodie received. Die in a fire is unusual from women. I did wonder if Steph had any such threats in their history. It would make an interesting comparison.

Hmm...I smell a rat. 🤨

No way did Jodie get those threats from women!

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 11:54
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