Caster Semenya on BBC1 now

[Davros]

I had to turn off

The truth is that Semenya has a DSD found exclusively in males, has undergone male virilisation and has testosterone levels in the male range.

All of that is information in the public domain.

All of which are proven facts.

Facts are not hate speech.

Anyway, about those cakes …

I don’t believe in hate speech either, but that’s because I’m a free speech absolutist (which is why I’m not reporting the ad hominem attacks on me to MNHQ).

Battenberg. Never see it now.

I’m insulting you? Blimey, your self importance is outstanding.

You said "Your faux dumb doesn't wash"... wasn't that meant to be insulting? Most people would take it that way I think.

This is really bizarre and I suppose shows what happens when words can be just cut free of their meanings. Man, woman, male, female, insulting, hate speech... just define them however you like? No need to explain what you mean or why you defined something as you did? Berate posters and call for deletion but have no ability to point out what they actually said that is wrong or explain what you're upset about?

Do you think you just have to say the words "hate speech" and that puts you on the moral high ground even though neither you nor anyone else understand why?

Please explain, I'm so baffled!

I’ve never liked Marzipan anyway.

Is that hate speech?

True,easy enough to make though.

The menopause sapped me of my desire to bake.

Probably.

Marzipan fruits are the WORST.

Come and arrest me, West Yorkshire Police!

How did you know I was in West Yorkshire 🤔

Take the piss, it doesn’t make ME look ignorant.

Caster Semenya js genetically male and thus cannot compete in the female category.

What Semenya ’wants’ doesn’t alter Semenya’s eligibility.

All seeing, all knowing oracle, obvs!

It’s how I know Caster Semenya is male.

(just kidding, I know that because I’ve read the court documents)

It is so clear and simple. CS is a woman, wants to be a woman, identifies as a woman, competes as a woman.

Semenya is not a female.

Women’s sport is for females.

HTH.

What are you talking about?

Semenya is male. Semenya had 5ARD, which is a DSD only males can have. This is a fact which is in court documents posted upthread.

Semenya is not a woman, does not want be a woman, does not 'identify' as a woman. Have you watched the video upthread of Semenya talking about not liking 'girls things'? Saying women are too 'soft' for him to want to be around?

The ONLY time Semenya wants to be seem as a woman, is when he is cheating actual women out of medals on the track.

Calling Semenya a man is literally true. Semenya is a man. The truth is neither unkind nor hate speech. I don't understand why you think your factually incorrect belief that CS is a woman trumps actual verified facts.

He can want to be a woman until the cows come home,it won't change the fact that he's a bloke.

Choose to read and quote the bits that support your opinion and ignore anything else.

It's not an opinion. It is a medical fact, legally documented in court documents upthread.CS is male, that is a fact.

If CS discusses having 5ARD is that a hate crime?

If a person with 5 ARD runs alone in a forest, are they still a man?

Fuck me! It's like listening to someone explaining chess to a pigeon.

Is mentioning Flat Earther’s hate speech now? Come on MN, you need to update the talk guidelines if so!

I’ve reported @FreddysSquishyBollock comment because it was offensive directly towards me. MN agreed.

Like baffled, vile is a most overused word on this forum. However it fits this thread well.