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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Caster Semenya on BBC1 now

447 replies

Davros · 07/11/2023 08:51

I had to turn off

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FreddysSquishyBollock · 07/11/2023 21:13

Who said anyone was vile? That’s a horrible accusation to make.

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:13

FreddysSquishyBollock · 07/11/2023 21:12

Is mentioning Flat Earther’s hate speech now? Come on MN, you need to update the talk guidelines if so!

No but using it as an offensive comment is! That’s why it was deleted.

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:14

You did Freddy! That’s why it was deleted.

Reddog1 · 07/11/2023 21:14

Semenya can “want” until the cows come home.

I “want” to look like Jennifer Aniston. That ain’t happening either!

Semenya is a chap, and should be competing against Jakob Ingebrigtsen, Jake Heyward, Jake Wightman etc not taking medals from Lynsey Sharp, Laura Muir et al.

I am sorry for Semenya’s condition. I genuinely am. But as an athletics fan I want the integrity of the sport preserved. That means protecting women’s right to compete against other women, amongst other things.

ApocalipstickNow · 07/11/2023 21:14

At least the pigeon looks like it’s listening

FreddysSquishyBollock · 07/11/2023 21:15

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:14

You did Freddy! That’s why it was deleted.

I’ve never called anyone ‘vile’ in my life.

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:15

You may want to be Jennifer Aniston but it won’t get you a part in Friends. CS is female that’s why she could take part in a women’s race.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 07/11/2023 21:16

ok you had us going there for a good long while there Ladiesssss but you’re now very clearly on the wind up

time for cake

SheikhDjibouti · 07/11/2023 21:17

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:15

You may want to be Jennifer Aniston but it won’t get you a part in Friends. CS is female that’s why she could take part in a women’s race.

FFS.

Semenya is NOT female.

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:17

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FreddysSquishyBollock · 07/11/2023 21:17

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:15

You may want to be Jennifer Aniston but it won’t get you a part in Friends. CS is female that’s why she could take part in a women’s race.

Friends ended in 2004.

Caster Semenya has been excluded from the Female category since 2019.

FreddysSquishyBollock · 07/11/2023 21:18

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Have you read the court documents yet?

GoudaThunkIt · 07/11/2023 21:18

Or perhaps listened to the podcasts?

WinterTrees · 07/11/2023 21:19

Wow, this thread is mad reading. I don't think I've ever seen such a clear example of 'I don't accept the extensive factual evidence because I don't think it's nice'.

If only we could wish ourselves out of other realities we find unpleasant. Death, parking tickets, menopause...

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:19

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ChatBFP · 07/11/2023 21:20

What makes CS female? It's in the court documents that CS has XY chromosomes. CS has said herself that she has no uterus and internal testes.

If I had a child who was born with ambiguous genitalia, then how do we know what sex they are? (Answer: genetic testing)

If there was a mistake at birth in the genetic testing - say the lab mixed the test up for a different child and I raised a "girl" who was actually genetically a boy, should that "girl" compete in the Olympics if they want to?

Is that "girl" different to a person raised as a boy who identifies as a girl later? Why?

WickedSerious · 07/11/2023 21:21

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 21:15

You may want to be Jennifer Aniston but it won’t get you a part in Friends. CS is female that’s why she could take part in a women’s race.

What makes him female?

ChatBFP · 07/11/2023 21:21

Sorry, that was to @Ladiesssss

You don't have to believe that CS is a liar or a fraud to think that CS was mistakenly put in a female category and does not belong there.

ApocalipstickNow · 07/11/2023 21:22

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nothingcomestonothing · 07/11/2023 21:23

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What's making you look ignorant, is your ignorance. Semenya is male, Semenya has 5ARD, a condition only males can have. This is legal fact, from a court case Semenya was party to. Semenya doesn't dispute that fact, so why do you?

Semenya was allowed to race in a women's race because the decision makers decided #bekind (to males) was more important than fairness (to women). It's not proof Semenya is a woman, Semenya is male.

Switcher · 07/11/2023 21:23

I must admit that given CS has XY chromosomes, has testicles and apparently fathered children makes it quite hard to see how they are female.

Kallikrates · 07/11/2023 21:24
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Sealion anyone?

AnyFucker · 07/11/2023 21:24

I saw that bloke on breakfast tv this morning. I wonder why he has popped up now, he has been excluded from women’s sport since 2019.

Kallikrates · 07/11/2023 21:25

He has a book to flog.

Helleofabore · 07/11/2023 21:26

Ladiesssss · 07/11/2023 19:36

hilarious in its irony!

What is the irony you are referring to please? There seems to be little of substance in your posts to go on except that you believe that this thread is disgusting.

Have you reported it yet? Have you reported the posts you deem as hate speech? Because the mods are very good at removing hate speech, and negative generalisations and personal attacks. Maybe though, you are using your personal definitions of hate and discrimination and whatever else you have been accusing posters of and not the definitions understood by the majority of the UK population which is what MN mods use.