Eddie Izzard - Guardian interview

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The Guardian have just posted an invitation to put questions to Eddie Izzard. This feels like a great opportunity to get a well worded, gender critical question out there. The thing is I'm a bit stuck, collectively we must be able to come up with something though!

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/oct/09/post-your-questions-for-eddie-izzard

@PikachuEars if people are going to take one anonymous poster's comments as representative of the opinion of everyone who they regard as "GC" then there's no hope for them.

The worst thing a woman can be, is unkind to a man, isn't that right?!

I made a, hardly novel, observation of the uncanny resemblance between Izzard and a cartoon character. I've no reason to think he'd read it, no reason to think it would ruin his day if he did.

@PikachuEars you can be certain I'd read your scolding but seem to care very little that you laying the respectability of the entire GC movement on my shoulders might be a bit much?

Did you choose that mugshot yourself, Eddie?

@IcakethereforeIam I didn't know your mother knew your user name!

It's a bit worrying, she's been dead for 30 years.

I'll never again have my face wiped with warm spit on a kleenex. Thankfully.

Well someone is channelling her... Mother in law then?

Nah, she'd have found it funny. And can anyone honestly say I'm wrong. There's a thread, from a few years ago, on reddit (tra central) clamouring for a live action remake with Izzard as the sea witch!

Not married, shacked up.

😁

Sorry I’m picking on your comment, I could have picked on two or three others on this thread or the many snarky comments and cheap digs I see aimed at people who identify as trans on GC threads

And my point wasn’t whether Eddie will read this or not - my point is that as someone receptive to GC arguments, it massively puts me off engaging. I can’t think of another area of public debate where it’s deemed OK to take a pop at someone’s appearance in the way I see here.

You might not intend it to be transphobic, you might not think it’s transphobic, but sometimes the collective effect looks pretty transphobic to me.

And sometimes posters comments look like they've just come to have a go at posters for the hell of it.

You 'can’t think of another area of public debate where it’s deemed OK to take a pop at someone’s appearance in the way I see here'!? Have you ever read anything about any woman in the news?

Incidentally, my comment is neutral regarding the undeniable resemblance. He wants to look like/be a woman. Ursula is a female character. He might be flattered. Do you think being compared to a middle aged woman is objectionable? I think Melissa Mccarthy got the role in the remake (I've not seen it).

heavens, if someone makes themselves look like a tit it's got to be OK to point that out

otherwise where will I get all my fun?

Eddie's a prick for attention seeking behaviour in women's toilets,
See Eddie's hand on Eddie's dick inside Eddie's dress, as per photo, at St. Pancras.
https://twitter.com/UnityNewsNet/status/1653667636058767361?lang=en

Eddie's toilet behaviour at Sheffield
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4645553-eddy-izzard-uses-ladies-loo-in-sheffield
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Eddie's a prick for scaring girls in their own sex toilets and boasting about it.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3695993-michael-conroy-exposes-the-darvo-in-izzard-s-teenage-girl-trauma

It's a nasty disturbing habit Eddie has got there, whatever character we think Eddie's dressed as today.

How about that for fair comment and an example of free speech Pika?

"You might not intend it to be transphobic, you might not think it’s transphobic, but sometimes the collective effect looks pretty transphobic to me."

1. He wants to be accepted as a woman, having people commenting on his appearance has surely got to be up there as an extremely common women's experience.

1. Everything is transphobic. Get over it if you want to express gender critical views.

Apparently a 1 turns into a bullet point but a 2 doesn't. Who knew?

Out of idle curiosity I just went and googled Eddie izzard and clicked onto images.

I don't know how a) i never noticed 20 years ago how sexualized his poses are when dressed in a dress or skirt and b) he's been doing the same photo poses for about 30 years.

Are us ‘gc’ people not allowed to have a sense of humour? This thread is all about a man who built a career on making people laugh. Having seen him 3 times over the years, trust me, lots of his material takes the piss out of people.
Go and get yourself a great big grip!

you might want to think about the impression jibes like this give about the GC movement.

That it has a sense of humour? Trans activism is notoriously humourless.

That it is up to date with well known social media tropes and memes?

That it refuses to put privileged men on a pedestal beyond reproach or into a sacred caste?

1. I’m guessing that you need to use only one carriage return at the end of point one, like this.
2. Yes, seems to work.

Eddie, was Suzie upset not to get the credit for the Jekyll and Hyde film?

Right...so it's OK because women in the public eye have always been the victims of vitriol? So it's just fair?

Even the excuses are the kind of things men say to defend sexist comments.

"It's just an observation, I don't mean anything by it"

"I was having a laugh, get a sense of humour".

I mean, say what you like - if you want to snipe in your own echo chamber that's fine. I'm just pointing out that as someone who is otherwise open to listening to GC views, the snide ad hominem comments that crop up in so many discussions don't help the cause.

What about Eddie and Eddie's penis in the women's toilets Pikachu?
You haven't commented on that.
I suppose you think that's fine for Eddie to fiddle with Eddie's dick in the queue for the women's loo?

Ursula is based on Divine, Eddie should be honoured to be compared.

Echo chamber

GC abbreviation

admonishing grown ups

Snide

Snipe.

Usually get all this from the non gender critical side of the argument.

Right...so it's OK because women in the public eye have always been the victims of vitriol? So it's just fair?

Even the excuses are the kind of things men say to defend sexist comments.

This argument only holds water if you believe Izzard to be part of an oppressed class instead of the most privileged.

the snide ad hominem comments that crop up in so many discussions don't help the cause.

What does help “the cause” then? Being nice? Being kind? I think these men should be mocked for their ridiculous stereotypical demonstration of what “being a woman” means. See also Sam Smith and “curves” 🙄. The more people point out the ridiculousness the more these men might stop and reflect on the offensiveness of what they’re claiming.

Although that would require a degree of humility, which doesn’t seem to be evident in Izzard.