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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Eddie Izzard - Guardian interview

163 replies

StoneColdAlibi · 09/10/2023 12:25

The Guardian have just posted an invitation to put questions to Eddie Izzard. This feels like a great opportunity to get a well worded, gender critical question out there. The thing is I'm a bit stuck, collectively we must be able to come up with something though!

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/oct/09/post-your-questions-for-eddie-izzard

Post your questions for Eddie Izzard

Whether running for parliament or in multiple marathons, performing on film and in multilingual standup, the star will be here to tell you how on earth she does it

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/oct/09/post-your-questions-for-eddie-izzard

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WomaninBoots · 11/10/2023 08:19

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AlisonDonut · 11/10/2023 08:22

See I was going to believe in reality but someone was mean to Eddie Izzard and you all lost me. I shall continue to believe in fantasy and it's all down to you nazis.

Boiledbeetle · 11/10/2023 08:41

LoobiJee · 11/10/2023 06:45

I clicked on those screenshots and, rather stupidly, was expecting to see riveting questions. Oh dear.

The question at the end about comedy for cheers rather than comedy for laughs was a good one I thought.

I'm sorry Loobi! We need a universal sarcasm emoji that we can use at the start of posts!

Boiledbeetle · 11/10/2023 08:44

PikachuEars · 11/10/2023 07:13

Ah I see we're advocating mocking and ridculing transpeople now.

I'm out, this is grim. I thought I was allied to the GC cause but you've lost me.

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WickedSerious · 11/10/2023 09:23

IcakethereforeIam · 10/10/2023 23:36

Perhaps, this will help. In 2016 someone did pictures of the Little Mermaid characters as real people. Here's the Ursula one. Compare it with a recent picture of izzard dressed as a Tunnocks teacake. Izzard is the one on the.... teacake....right!

Edited

Yep,it's very much a case of 'once you see it' and the resemblance is getting stronger as he ages.

UhOhGuys · 11/10/2023 09:40

I am so, so sick of the guardian. I posted a very brief, very neutral question asking about plans to reassure GC feminists and it hasn't been let through premod

UhOhGuys · 11/10/2023 09:42

The guardians moderating policy has become so extreme in the past few years, it borders on suppression. Somebody should investigate it

Ofcourseshecan · 11/10/2023 09:45

Toseland · 10/10/2023 09:56

Eddie, can you explain how you switch from boy to girl mode so easily? This will really help children who are being taught they need medication and surgery to be able to do this.

Excellent question. I can’t see the gutless Guardian allowing it. But I hope he may read this thread and think about it.

Ofcourseshecan · 11/10/2023 09:54

It’s been like that for years. If you had a bit of time to kill, it used to be fun watching the blizzard of deletions as mildly challenging comments and questions were posted on a controversial topic.

I used to imagine it was blue-haired interns imposing their furious dogma. But now I presume it’s just standard Guardian practice. I haven’t read it for ages. The real-journalism Guardian was a sad loss.

Ofcourseshecan · 11/10/2023 09:55

Ofcourseshecan · 11/10/2023 09:54

It’s been like that for years. If you had a bit of time to kill, it used to be fun watching the blizzard of deletions as mildly challenging comments and questions were posted on a controversial topic.

I used to imagine it was blue-haired interns imposing their furious dogma. But now I presume it’s just standard Guardian practice. I haven’t read it for ages. The real-journalism Guardian was a sad loss.

This was meant to quote UhOhGuys The guardians moderating policy has become so extreme in the past few years, it borders on suppression. Somebody should investigate it

IcakethereforeIam · 11/10/2023 10:42
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Oh well.

PikachuEars · 11/10/2023 12:08

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Obviously it's not about a single comment. As I said before I see these kind of snide remarks about transpeople all the time in GC discussions (here, on twitter etc) and for once I thought I'd challenge one rather than wince to myself.

And as the response has just been to double down and defend mockery and ridicule - I just don't want to be a part of this. It obviously doesn't change what I personally think and believe but I can opt in or out of engaging in the debate and when it's this toxic I'm not interested in playing any part in fuelling it.

SoundTheSirens · 11/10/2023 12:14

PikachuEars · 11/10/2023 12:08

Obviously it's not about a single comment. As I said before I see these kind of snide remarks about transpeople all the time in GC discussions (here, on twitter etc) and for once I thought I'd challenge one rather than wince to myself.

And as the response has just been to double down and defend mockery and ridicule - I just don't want to be a part of this. It obviously doesn't change what I personally think and believe but I can opt in or out of engaging in the debate and when it's this toxic I'm not interested in playing any part in fuelling it.

That's your prerogative of course. No one needs to be part of a conversation if they don't wish to be.

I do hope, however, that you police the TRA death threats, rape threats, cries of "dried up old hag", "you're just jealous because TW are sexier than you'll ever be", criticisms that Sharron Davies looks like a man, that Martina Navratilova is less of a woman than 'India' Willoughby etc etc ad nauseum as assiduously as you try to tone police women here reacting to a man making a mockery of womanhood.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/10/2023 12:14

It obviously doesn't change what I personally think and believe

That's good because it was quite a bizarre suggestion, which is why people picked up on it. No one is obliging you to do anything. Hope that's clear.

Notcookie · 11/10/2023 12:31

Yes you said that were allied to the GC cause but "now you've lost me". That was certainly a suggestion that you had changed your thinking on the underlying issues.

I actually agree about it being important not to make personal insults but I don't think pointing out the similarities in appearance between Eddie Izzard and a female cartoon character is toxic. In fact he might well welcome the comparison.

Ofcourseshecan · 11/10/2023 12:32

SoundTheSirens · 11/10/2023 12:14

That's your prerogative of course. No one needs to be part of a conversation if they don't wish to be.

I do hope, however, that you police the TRA death threats, rape threats, cries of "dried up old hag", "you're just jealous because TW are sexier than you'll ever be", criticisms that Sharron Davies looks like a man, that Martina Navratilova is less of a woman than 'India' Willoughby etc etc ad nauseum as assiduously as you try to tone police women here reacting to a man making a mockery of womanhood.

No, SoundtheSirens the death threats etc don’t need policing, they’re fine. They’re only aimed at women. Rude remarks to men actually deserve police action, didn’t you know?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/10/2023 12:59

PikachuEars · 11/10/2023 07:13

Ah I see we're advocating mocking and ridculing transpeople now.

I'm out, this is grim. I thought I was allied to the GC cause but you've lost me.

🤣🤣🤣

seems legit

Britinme · 11/10/2023 13:11

Ah my question was there for a few hours but now seems to have disappeared. Bums.

IcakethereforeIam · 11/10/2023 13:13

What's that Orwell quote about denying the evidence of your eyes?

LarkLane · 11/10/2023 13:18

Hey Pikachu seeing as you're GC an all.
What do you think about Eddie and the Eddie women's toilet dick twiddle?

I keep asking, but you seem to side step the question to bleat on about how mean we are about the Eddie fizzog.

MuffinWalloper · 11/10/2023 14:06

I wrote a long response which seems to have disappeared. To confirm I wasn't mocking Eddie's appearance when I said he looked like a dickhead. He looks like a dickhead because of his complete about turn from his funny routines, wearing his own clothes and running marathons - into being a two faced misogynistic desperate shyster of a dickhead. He's not surfing that corner anymore, he's jumped the shark.

IcakethereforeIam · 11/10/2023 14:30

Actually as @PikachuEars accused me directly of being transphobic I think I'm entitled to an explanation. People have been banned from these boards for less. Although tras toss the accusation around, it's still quite a serious charge to level.

So, @PikachuEars why is posting that Izzard, the 60+ year old male comedian, in 'girl' mode looks like Ursula? It's not the lack of resemblance, that's undeniable. If you can't see it, many, many other people can. Is it because she's the villain? In which case I have news for you about the character of Mr Hyde. A character that Izzard has chosen to play in 'girl' mode. I'm not even denying he looks like a woman, Ursula is a female character after all.

So, according to you, what head of the transphobic hydra have I fallen foul of?

Boiledbeetle · 11/10/2023 14:47

LarkLane · 11/10/2023 13:18

Hey Pikachu seeing as you're GC an all.
What do you think about Eddie and the Eddie women's toilet dick twiddle?

I keep asking, but you seem to side step the question to bleat on about how mean we are about the Eddie fizzog.

This one?

Eddie Izzard - Guardian interview
Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/10/2023 14:54

Ah yes, I thought you were referring to the time he bullied three teenage girls in a ladies' loo.

www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2020/the-fear-of-being-stared-at/

MagpiePi · 11/10/2023 15:02

@LarkLane 'dick twiddle' 😂

When I see that picture I wonder why, with his levels of entitlement, he bothered to stand in line? Why didn't he just kick down the nearest cubicle door and drag the woman using it out so that he could 'just pee' ?