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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gigi gorgeous’s husband is pregnant

227 replies

Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:23

I wasn’t too familiar with with Gigi but I believe she is a trans woman and her husband is a trans man both have retained their anatomy of birth and have undergone IVF to have a child whereby the father (a biological female) be carrying the child.

Im semi GC I guess and don’t agree with having to refer to myself as a person with a vagina, cis and the pushing of pronouns and neo pronouns. But I do believe gender identity to be different (sometimes) from biological sex.

I can imagine this being quite confusing for the child BUT a biological parent is still carrying the child (unlike surrogacy).

this is for discussion not to be hateful to any person or any group

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Verv · 05/10/2023 17:02

Heterosexual male and female couple have sex.
Female gets pregnant.
More news at 10.

Pallisers · 05/10/2023 17:04

man and woman procreate. With a side order of "look at us, look how special we are, look at us!"

OneQuestionBefore · 05/10/2023 17:04

Terfsichore · 05/10/2023 16:26

None of these people ever think of the children do they ?

Most people don’t though….

happsy · 05/10/2023 17:04

Their kid is going to be so messed up.

TheShellBeach · 05/10/2023 17:06

It isn't exactly news when a woman becomes pregnant.

Circumferences · 05/10/2023 17:07

I saw another clip from tick tock of a biological woman (who was living as a man) also got pregnant and gave birth, he said he didn’t find it triggering because giving birth isn’t an inherently female thing and just a biological thing, was interesting

These extreme gender ideologists are the people who argue that having a penis isn't a male thing and having a cervix isn't a female thing.
They're why Cervical Cancer charities have removed all the words "women/girls/female" from their website and replaced us with "people with a cervix".

It's not "interesting", it's bullshit.

MinnieMouse0 · 05/10/2023 17:07

Here is the video, NOBODY IS PREGNANT, the couple just froze three embryos. The video doesn’t say if Nats (trans man) will carry the baby or if they will use a surrogate. It probably would have been good to fact check before starting the thread.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msm7AX5UnUs

It’s Happening... After 6 Years of Trying For a Baby *story time*

I can't explain the feeling of uploading this video any other way than saying it's absolutely surreal.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msm7AX5UnUs

OneQuestionBefore · 05/10/2023 17:07

SnowflakeCity · 05/10/2023 16:32

Ffs sake, regretting clicking on their instagram now. The first photo is of them naked with their arsehole scribbled out.

Why didn’t I trust you and not go see for myself!

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2023 17:09

So a narc heteosexual couple froze embroyos

And we are all supposed to go 'wooooooooohooooo how amazing and super special' and give them hoards of attention.

Or otherwise we are bigoted.

Right got it.

Yawn

Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 17:09

MinnieMouse0 · 05/10/2023 17:07

Here is the video, NOBODY IS PREGNANT, the couple just froze three embryos. The video doesn’t say if Nats (trans man) will carry the baby or if they will use a surrogate. It probably would have been good to fact check before starting the thread.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msm7AX5UnUs

I viewed the shorter video on Instagram and read the comments that were stating Nat was pregnant

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MartyFunkhouser · 05/10/2023 17:09

So this is a non-story about a man and a woman who needed ivf. Hardly note-worthy.

Although that child is going to be fucked up.

Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 17:10

Circumferences · 05/10/2023 17:07

I saw another clip from tick tock of a biological woman (who was living as a man) also got pregnant and gave birth, he said he didn’t find it triggering because giving birth isn’t an inherently female thing and just a biological thing, was interesting

These extreme gender ideologists are the people who argue that having a penis isn't a male thing and having a cervix isn't a female thing.
They're why Cervical Cancer charities have removed all the words "women/girls/female" from their website and replaced us with "people with a cervix".

It's not "interesting", it's bullshit.

My use of interesting was …. Interesting I.e.😏🤔

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itsmylife7 · 05/10/2023 17:11

Lifeinlists · 05/10/2023 16:29

So a biological woman is pregnant.
Amazing.

Exactly!

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 05/10/2023 17:11

Biologically female human is pregnant. Biologically female human was impregnated with the sperm of a biologically male human (well, obviously).

IVF isn´t particularly uncommon.

These two adults - with evidently functioning reproductive organs (or access to their biological material, aka frozen sperm, eggs etc.) - chose this instead of surrogacy, which they definitely could have afforded as well. Which I personally find rather positive, seeing as surrogacy comes with ethical dilemmas, especially paid and / or if not medically necessary.

I suppose I don´t particularly care. I do hope they respect the child`s privacy.

MargotBamborough · 05/10/2023 17:12

Im semi GC I guess and don’t agree with having to refer to myself as a person with a vagina, cis and the pushing of pronouns and neo pronouns. But I do believe gender identity to be different (sometimes) from biological sex.

@Moneymatters12 What do you believe a gender identity is?

Fleabane · 05/10/2023 17:13

It surely wasn't surprising it took them six years given they've stuffed their bodies with cross sex hormones.

They are a heterosexual couple, however they identify.

StephanieSuperpowers · 05/10/2023 17:13

I suppose I don´t particularly care. I do hope they respect the child`s privacy.

I'd say that ship has already sailed.

sprigatito · 05/10/2023 17:13

I know a non-binary couple who are planning to use "Parry" and "Rennie" (short for "parent") instead of Mummy and Daddy. They aren't attention-seeking at all, in fact they're both very self-effacing and lack confidence, they're both neurodivergent and very sweet and earnest. Neither of them gives a toss about being thought "brave and stunning" they just want to be able to live their life the way they feel comfortable.

speenmum · 05/10/2023 17:15

It's not like the child will remember the pregnancy anyway

Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 17:15

MargotBamborough · 05/10/2023 17:12

Im semi GC I guess and don’t agree with having to refer to myself as a person with a vagina, cis and the pushing of pronouns and neo pronouns. But I do believe gender identity to be different (sometimes) from biological sex.

@Moneymatters12 What do you believe a gender identity is?

So I mean very loosely that to be womanly and feminine can mean different things to different people, some males are very feminine and that being a more feminine male doesn’t make that man less of a man, it’s a spectrum of masculinity, rather than a narrow definition.

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Tlolljs · 05/10/2023 17:15

Of course giving birth is a female thing!
Men can’t do it can they!

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 05/10/2023 17:15

I suppose it highlights the value of undergoing puberty and it may suggest that this should be given the appropriate consideration (by all people / wherever one stands on the trans issue).

This wouldn´t have been possible if either of them had medically transitioned before (or during) puberty,

0ElectronBlue0 · 05/10/2023 17:16

Look at me, look at me, no don’t look at the baby. If you insist on looking at the baby I will have to transition said baby so YOU WILL LOOK AT ME!!

MinnieMouse0 · 05/10/2023 17:17

Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 17:09

I viewed the shorter video on Instagram and read the comments that were stating Nat was pregnant

I don’t see any comments saying Nats is pregnant 🤷🏻‍♀️

StarlightLime · 05/10/2023 17:17

Tlolljs · 05/10/2023 17:15

Of course giving birth is a female thing!
Men can’t do it can they!

Nope. Only women, even if they choose to call themselves men.

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