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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gigi gorgeous’s husband is pregnant

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Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:23

I wasn’t too familiar with with Gigi but I believe she is a trans woman and her husband is a trans man both have retained their anatomy of birth and have undergone IVF to have a child whereby the father (a biological female) be carrying the child.

Im semi GC I guess and don’t agree with having to refer to myself as a person with a vagina, cis and the pushing of pronouns and neo pronouns. But I do believe gender identity to be different (sometimes) from biological sex.

I can imagine this being quite confusing for the child BUT a biological parent is still carrying the child (unlike surrogacy).

this is for discussion not to be hateful to any person or any group

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nepeta · 06/10/2023 18:21

This example is interesting to me in the sense that it makes crystal-clear the central gender identity argument that being a woman or a man has absolutely nothing to do with that person's biological sex. This also means that the new definitions are forcing that same belief on all of us and that now we have no terms for what earlier used to be called 'women' and 'men.'

When I first (more than ten years ago) became acquainted with the transgender theories and views I assumed, very naively, that no trans man would ever wish to menstruate or get pregnant, what with those being female body abilities, and that no trans woman would wish to retain the male genitals or use sperm to impregnate a woman, what with those being male body aspects or abilities.

In hindsight, this was the "born in the wrong body" argument of being trans. Ironically, it would have been easier to cope with in feminism, because there still would have been space for the female body and the female sex and the analysis of discrimination that is sex-based.

The more recent argument is that nobody is born in the wrong body, and that this, then means that some women have penises, some men have vaginas, and the definition of 'women' and 'men' must, by default, be based on stereotypes about clothes, hair, behaviour, social roles etc.

All the stuff feminists have fought against for decades if not for centuries.

The GI ideology is quite regressive.

serialthreadkiller · 06/10/2023 18:37

Catsanfan · 06/10/2023 17:17

I don't understand why a trans man would want to be pregnant and I also don't understand how they can have PIV as it means acknowledgement of the 'woman' having a penis and the man having a 'vagina'

They didn't; I watched/winced through the 18 minute video on YT where Gigi tells of their "journey". Good old fashioned IVF and 3 viable embryos created. Don't think anyone is actually pregnant yet so wonder if they will yet resort to surrogacy? Think the confusion comes from Gigi professing that 3 embryos are 3 babies. Many on this website will have gone through the heartache of IVF to know this is not guaranteed.

Gigi gorgeous - Google Search

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