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Gigi gorgeous’s husband is pregnant

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Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:23

I wasn’t too familiar with with Gigi but I believe she is a trans woman and her husband is a trans man both have retained their anatomy of birth and have undergone IVF to have a child whereby the father (a biological female) be carrying the child.

Im semi GC I guess and don’t agree with having to refer to myself as a person with a vagina, cis and the pushing of pronouns and neo pronouns. But I do believe gender identity to be different (sometimes) from biological sex.

I can imagine this being quite confusing for the child BUT a biological parent is still carrying the child (unlike surrogacy).

this is for discussion not to be hateful to any person or any group

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RichardArmitagesWife · 05/10/2023 16:48

Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:33

And going to be the father of baby

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Not if they are in the UK - Freddie McConnell's case showed they are still the registered mother of the child despite wishing to be recognised as the father.

confusedmum2023 · 05/10/2023 16:49

wow to be fair she is pretty gorgeous. Don’t really get the whole thing about man/woman both trans so essentially still a hetro relationship. I’d be more concerned that the baby is going to be a prop for instagram than what gender they see themselves as.

Myneighboursarewankers · 05/10/2023 16:50

But then she’s not a husband if she’s pregnant. She’s a woman

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Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:50

meisafairy · 05/10/2023 16:48

I really thought this thread was about Gigi Hadid and Zayn Malik.
I was trying to make sense of Zayn being pregnant.

They split up babe

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Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:51

RichardArmitagesWife · 05/10/2023 16:48

Not if they are in the UK - Freddie McConnell's case showed they are still the registered mother of the child despite wishing to be recognised as the father.

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They’re American, not sure of the legalities there

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StowOnTheWold · 05/10/2023 16:52

The issue for me is we are normalising this crap by talking about it.

MinnieMouse0 · 05/10/2023 16:53

Did you watch the YouTube vid? Is Nats actually going to carry the baby or is it surrogacy? They’ve been trying over the last 6 years and Nats only started to transition in 2021.

I think it’s so so nice that the baby will be biologically both of theirs.

TeaAndStrumpets · 05/10/2023 16:53

Desecratedcoconut · 05/10/2023 16:47

We don't even know the full raft of biological consequences of flooding a female body with this level of testosterone yet, let alone what that does to a foetus. But, you know, remember to lay off the blue cheese.

This.

WallaceinAnderland · 05/10/2023 16:54

Millions of biological women around the world are pregnant. Why do you think this is news OP?

BethDuttonsTwin · 05/10/2023 16:54

I’m not sure if the define themselves as a heterosexual or straight couple given that they are both trans

I define them as straight and will not be forced to go along with this kind of silly pretence.

HamBone · 05/10/2023 16:54

I wonder why they had IVF when they could make a baby the traditional way? Fertility issues presumably.

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Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:55

MinnieMouse0 · 05/10/2023 16:53

Did you watch the YouTube vid? Is Nats actually going to carry the baby or is it surrogacy? They’ve been trying over the last 6 years and Nats only started to transition in 2021.

I think it’s so so nice that the baby will be biologically both of theirs.

from my understanding they’re not using a surrogate which is refreshing

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ClawedButler · 05/10/2023 16:55

jacksonspring · 05/10/2023 16:36

You mean homophobic or transphobic straight people who fecklessly have children and freely air their prejudices around them without considering that the child might grow up to be gay or trans themselves?

No, they don’t think of the children. And yes, it was confusing.

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What's being gay got to do with being trans?

Trans ideology is inherently homophobic. You have to be either homophobic or transphobic, you can't be neither.

MyJetNowAirlines · 05/10/2023 16:56

Lifeinlists · 05/10/2023 16:29

So a biological woman is pregnant.
Amazing.

Yup.

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Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:56

WallaceinAnderland · 05/10/2023 16:54

Millions of biological women around the world are pregnant. Why do you think this is news OP?

But I don’t think millions of women who identify and live as males and are married to a biological male who identifies as a women and are in the public eye are, so that’s the why for you

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Anetra · 05/10/2023 16:56

No I think the more absurd ones that make the headlines the more people are just like wise up, be fem be butch be totally vanilla ….. be whatever persona you so desire but a women is a women and a man is a man and this crap about they/she who was a he/he who was a she/ just will fizzle out. Common sense has to kick in - doesn’t it?

GuinnessBird · 05/10/2023 16:57

Wow, a woman is pregnant.

Cumbrianlife · 05/10/2023 16:57

Attention seeking straight couple get pregnant...

minipie · 05/10/2023 16:57

I do think this is noteworthy tbh, not because of “man has baby” but because it undermines the idea that all trans people are horrified and traumatised by their biological bodies and genitals.

You can’t get much more in touch with your female body than being pregnant and giving birth.

Anetra · 05/10/2023 16:58

BethDuttonsTwin · 05/10/2023 16:54

I’m not sure if the define themselves as a heterosexual or straight couple given that they are both trans

I define them as straight and will not be forced to go along with this kind of silly pretence.

Same.

Their definition doesn’t matter to me. The biological facts matter to me

autumnpleasestay · 05/10/2023 16:59

I feel sorry for the kid. They don't have a chance at a normal life. Being born to 'YT/Insta-famous' parents would be challenge enough, but this takes it to a whole new level.

But we're not supposed to care, so... Except we are supposed to care, because the parents-to-be are so brave and stunning, not to mention that they wouldn't be rich and famous if people had just ignored them. Such a conundrum.

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Moneymatters12 · 05/10/2023 16:59

minipie · 05/10/2023 16:57

I do think this is noteworthy tbh, not because of “man has baby” but because it undermines the idea that all trans people are horrified and traumatised by their biological bodies and genitals.

You can’t get much more in touch with your female body than being pregnant and giving birth.

Really interesting… I saw another clip from tick tock of a biological woman (who was living as a man) also got pregnant and gave birth, he said he didn’t find it triggering because giving birth isn’t an inherently female thing and just a biological thing, was interesting

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VaddaABeetch · 05/10/2023 17:00

So a mummy & a daddy loved each other very much. Daddy gave mummy a special seed & now they are growing a baby in mummy’s tummy.

But Mummy will now call herself Daddy will now call himself Mummy.

Spicy Straights?

BatteryPoweredMammy · 05/10/2023 17:00

I feel sorry for the poor child who will be stuck with these two loons as parents.
What a pair of attention seeking tosspots. 🤦🏻‍♀️

maras2 · 05/10/2023 17:01

FFS

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