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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jo Phoenix vs The OU Employment Tribunal 2nd October (whispers Ben Cooper)

996 replies

ickky · 25/09/2023 09:12

Employment Tribunal starts next Monday, not sure if it is available for remote viewing.

I have sent a request so we will see.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 04/10/2023 13:45

I'm curious.

Where i work, we routinely test the equipment in meeting rooms, so they don't conk out during a potentially pivotal moment.
Does anyone else do this?

CriticalCondition · 04/10/2023 13:45

And the judge is already asking where we are in the bundle. BC has the patience of a saint.

ickky · 04/10/2023 13:47

I miss Judge Goodman

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CriticalCondition · 04/10/2023 13:48

ickky · 04/10/2023 13:47

I miss Judge Goodman

This, this and this.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 13:48

If it's going to take EJ a full minute to access the right page in an electronic bundle every time her timetable is going to be in flapping in tatters when we get to the paper documents.

GCITC · 04/10/2023 13:49

ickky · 04/10/2023 13:47

I miss Judge Goodman

I miss her cat

Ameanstreakamilewide · 04/10/2023 13:49

She was wonderful.

MavisMcMinty · 04/10/2023 13:51

Maybe - as in many other professions - barristers fail upwards? This judge sounds unbefuckinglievably incompetent.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 13:53

Just noticed witness statement is now up in chat.

PoshCoffee · 04/10/2023 13:53

Just got back from lunch and am back in the waiting room. Doesn’t sound like I’m missing much.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 13:54

Ready reckoner for pagination has been introduced 🙄

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 13:58

From this line of questioning it sounds as though the OU are going with the 'it was some academics, not the OU as an entity' defence?

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 14:03

Now leaning on that Jo could have just sorted it out with a conversation rather than escalating.

Melissamelisante · 04/10/2023 14:03

don't get what she's trying to get out.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 14:07

Jo having to explain what Slack is.

Sisterpita · 04/10/2023 14:09

Oh a little impatient that Jo is not conceding the point.

dunBle · 04/10/2023 14:27

Sisterpita · 04/10/2023 14:09

Oh a little impatient that Jo is not conceding the point.

The judge or the OU's brief?

PoseasRadicalActuallyMisogynistic · 04/10/2023 14:27

On a side note, it’s no wonder that the courts are reluctant to let cameras into the proceedings.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 14:30

PoseasRadicalActuallyMisogynistic · 04/10/2023 14:27

On a side note, it’s no wonder that the courts are reluctant to let cameras into the proceedings.

This is very true.

Sisterpita · 04/10/2023 14:36

The OUs brief

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 14:41

OU brief now arguing that Jo's email response to Dr Downes was 'brusque'. Would that be argued about a man's response?

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 14:55

Ou brief just said Jo gave inaugural address at OU conference in May but had not mentioned this - it's right at the beginning of her witness statement (the only bit I've been able to read in breaks so far!) BC caught it and corrected of course, but does not bode well for OU if they were relying on the omission to build to a point?

pronounsbundlebundle · 04/10/2023 15:02

One thing I've been amazed at with this whole gender debacle is how many people in professional positions think they can wing it in court (Mermaids had to be the winner of the 'genuinely thinking we can spout utter bollocks in court' award but there were several strong contenders).

Well winging it doesn't work with Ben Cooper. He knows the detail and anyone coming up against him who doesn't, well they're toast.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 15:07

Break til 3:20

RocketPanda · 04/10/2023 15:15

They get a quare lot of breaks don't they.

I think Garden Court Chambers is also a strong contender for the bollocks award too.

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