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Graham Linehan’s Book

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PretzelKnot · 14/09/2023 05:17

Tough Crowd, due out 12 October. I’m delighted to see this. He is such a good writer and has sacrificed so much in defence of women’s rights and reality itself. Hope it’s a smash hit.

https://x.com/glinner/status/1702078826543448552?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

https://x.com/glinner/status/1702078826543448552?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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Tinysoxxx · 15/09/2023 10:52

Re signatures in the book: Presumably they’ll be someone folding the book out ready for him! Maybe lined up on a long table that he circles round? A conveyor belt?

Boiledbeetle · 15/09/2023 10:54

Owen must regret ever taking the original photo of whatever book he was reading at the time!

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Maaate · 15/09/2023 10:57

AutumnCrow · 15/09/2023 09:14

I am so very pleased for Graham that the advance sales are so strong. That must be a massive boost for him.

Is there any legal way for the rights to the Father Ted Musical to be re-acquired from Hat Trick? Hopefully Graham’s book talks about this awful ongoing scandal, and there’s now some movement on it.

What will happen is the shitweasels at Hat Trick will see that Graham and his work are incredibly popular and that they will make enough money staging the show to offset the MRA rage.

Basically money talks.

teawamutu · 15/09/2023 11:16

Maaate · 15/09/2023 10:57

What will happen is the shitweasels at Hat Trick will see that Graham and his work are incredibly popular and that they will make enough money staging the show to offset the MRA rage.

Basically money talks.

I hope so, because that would be the most significant crack in the dam. As Glinner himself said; he's so cancelled he wasn't even invited on to a show about being cancelled.

Being back as a moneyspinner would set a HUGE precedent.

NashvilleQueen · 15/09/2023 11:16

Lol at that Owen Jones photoshop

NutellaEllaElla · 15/09/2023 11:19

Which show was that?

lechiffre55 · 15/09/2023 11:22

Nah Hat Trick are in too deep. Sunk-cost fallacy. They won't be able to admit how wrong they were over Graham. Also for Hat Trick and JM to admit they were wrong might open them up to legal redress from Graham. They have painted themselves into a corner with a paint that doesn't dry. They are stuck.
The only way the musical deadlock ever gets resolved is if behind the scenes a negotiated agreement is reached to part ways where neither side has to admit any wrongdoing and both sides don't comment on it, just release one of those legalese joint statments. Glinner can then put it on with a different company.
I'm surprised Glinner hasn't rewritten it from the ground up with different ideas gags title etc.... "Father Dougals Odyessy Among The Heathens"

After a google it's not clear who owns the rights to Father Ted so it may be both parties jointly own the rights in some way, or there may be an exclusivity deal Hat Trick has to produce the material. My guess is it's messy and might never be resolved.

Iamnotastick · 15/09/2023 11:31

I do wish he would STFU on twitter though. Pointless online spats dont do anyone any favours and all seem so childish.

RealityFan · 15/09/2023 11:31

lechiffre55 · 15/09/2023 11:22

Nah Hat Trick are in too deep. Sunk-cost fallacy. They won't be able to admit how wrong they were over Graham. Also for Hat Trick and JM to admit they were wrong might open them up to legal redress from Graham. They have painted themselves into a corner with a paint that doesn't dry. They are stuck.
The only way the musical deadlock ever gets resolved is if behind the scenes a negotiated agreement is reached to part ways where neither side has to admit any wrongdoing and both sides don't comment on it, just release one of those legalese joint statments. Glinner can then put it on with a different company.
I'm surprised Glinner hasn't rewritten it from the ground up with different ideas gags title etc.... "Father Dougals Odyessy Among The Heathens"

After a google it's not clear who owns the rights to Father Ted so it may be both parties jointly own the rights in some way, or there may be an exclusivity deal Hat Trick has to produce the material. My guess is it's messy and might never be resolved.

I read something about JM that said he saw the alternative comics in the 80s as being on The Right Side Of History versus the racist misogynist homophobe Bernard Manning etc generation before, and he made hay while the sun shined. And he stuck his finger to test the wind direction on deciding to be "right" in tying to the mast of pro TRA and anti GC. "The future of comedy must be...inclusive, supportive, non judgemental"...er, no Jimmy, comedy has always been cruel. What you mean is, that's my choice to maximise shareholder value, and my eventual cashing in.

Agreed that sunk costs fallacy and status in the elites caste system means no truce can be had here.

Giggorata · 15/09/2023 11:38

Ordered it. I hope it is a runaway best seller. Glinner deserves our support, as he has supported us for so long and at such a cost.
Also, good on ya, Wossie and Richard.

Giggorata · 15/09/2023 11:44

Also… there's a topless poster of Richard Ayoade? (Misses point of thread)

Boiledbeetle · 15/09/2023 11:49

Some people are just not happy about glinner and his book! And are taking the opportunity to have a pop at everyone else they deem guilty of wrong think

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Abhannmor · 15/09/2023 12:00

Can't seem to pre order from Waterstones - won't Recognise my Irish phone number. And I won't buy from Amazon. But I will visit the nearest independent bookshop. Hope they're not captured!

Tinysoxxx · 15/09/2023 12:02

There are several glinner Twitter (X) accounts so I don’t know which one is his. There’s an of bit ranty stuff on them. I think if I were him I would be stating some facts what is not true about him (again) then leaving Twitter (X) temporarily and saying why - too busy signing books! I understand this is easier said than done when people are tweeting libellous stuff about you. Perhaps screenshotting and replying to a lowlights round-up every so often?

I don’t know how JKRowling does it so magnificently tbh. It must require a huge amount of patience and resolve.

WinterTrees · 15/09/2023 12:06

The signing thing is important for the optics. He will indeed have to sign every copy as promised, which is no mean feat, but the publisher will stack the books up ready and there will be photographs of him by that giant mountain of books. It's an incredibly powerful image for the twitter haters.

WinterTrees · 15/09/2023 12:07

(By halfway through his signature will probably be little more than a vague approximation but it will be his hand! 😂)

duc748 · 15/09/2023 12:11

Is the JM referred to upthread Jimmy Mulville? I don't know the story about Hat Trick and Glinner; if anyone could point me towards a brief resume, I'd be grateful.

lechiffre55 · 15/09/2023 12:19

@duc748
Yes.
I'm not sure you'd get a neutral version of the story anywhere. It's not the sort of thing that gets well documented.

Pudmyboy · 15/09/2023 12:30

AflagAhoy · 14/09/2023 14:07

Glinner said MB apologised, he doesn't seem bothered by it.
https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1702299276250890525

Thanks, that is interesting and a bit confusing: did MB say what he was reported as saying and is being two-faced to Glinner, or was his original comment somehow twisted?
Would love it (and be more reassured) if MB said something publicly but I won't hold my breath!

Maaate · 15/09/2023 12:31

As much as I would love to see FTTM it would really grate on me for JM and HT to make any kind of profit from it after what they have done.

Pudmyboy · 15/09/2023 12:33

Boiledbeetle · 15/09/2023 10:54

Owen must regret ever taking the original photo of whatever book he was reading at the time!

Oh I love this!! Seriously considering making it my phone's wallpaper!

ArabeIIaScott · 15/09/2023 12:35

'One of the best TV comedy writers of all time delivers a book which is a must-read for anyone who has ever wondered: a) how to create a hit sit-com and b) how it feels to lose everything. It's funny, complicated and utterly compelling'

Jonathan Ross

'One of the most compelling and unflinchingly honest memoirs I've read in many years. It's also the funniest'

Andrew Doyle

'Graham Linehan has long been one of my favourite writers - and this book shows that his brilliance in prose is the equal to his brilliance as a screenwriter. It unfolds with the urgency of a Sam Fuller film: that of a man who has been through something that few have experienced but has managed to return, undaunted, to tell us the tale'

Richard Ayoade

'Hilarious, raw and touching. A must-read for anyone who wants to know the backstory behind Father Ted - and why he gave up the life of a luvvie to fight the threats posed by trans ideology to women's rights and child safeguarding'

Helen Joyce

'This book is great company, and reminds us that Graham is first and foremost a writer, and a very funny one indeed. It is a not inconsiderable relief, in fact, to see that he has not lost the gift'

Simon Evans

'A brilliant account of the evolution of a comedy writer, but also an extraordinary and chilling portrayal of cancel culture. I found it unputdownable'

Lissa Evans

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 15/09/2023 12:36

Just ordered from the publisher, looking forward to reading this!

Lilifer · 15/09/2023 12:41

ihavespoken · 15/09/2023 09:38

@lilifer yep you need to log on to amazon website on your phone, into your account and you can buy the kindle book there.
It's an annoying system!

Oh thank you!

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