Worrying Increase in Transphobia

[PorcelinaV]

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/09/transphobia-uk-press-media-negative-coverage/

An increase in transphobic sentiment among the British public has been fuelled by hostile coverage of trans people from the right-wing press, argues data journalist Ell Folan....

Unfortunately, newspapers still have a great deal of influence on the public and political agenda in Britain, and nowhere is this more obvious than in how perceptions of trans rights have changed.

As recently as Feburary 2021, an absolute majority of British voters (51 per cent) agreed with the statement “a transgender woman is a woman”, including 6 in 10 women. Just 34 per cent disagreed. But after years of negative coverage from the press, those numbers have changed.

In April this year, only 33 per cent of voters agreed that trans women are women, with 47 per cent disagreeing....

It is clear that the media plays an important role in shaping public perceptions, and unless their negative coverage is corrected and refuted, public opinion will continue to worsen.

We have struggled for sex-based safeguarding because, as crime stats and women's lived experience show, males do prey on women. And they are bigger and stronger.

Your comparison is either a denial or acceptance of male violence against women and girls. Either way, it's deeply offensive and misogynistic.

I'll ask again, in that philosophy you leave your front door wide open when you go out, do you? Since people are going to burgle anyway?

Tell you what. You don't speak for me & I won't speak for you.
You carry on over there & I'll stay over here then we'll both be ok.

But you are trying to speak for all of us when you say it's OK for trans women to be in our spaces.

Quite leave women their single sex spaces, you can get your kit off in the men's; because clearly you have nothing to fear do you?

If you mean you carry on with mixed sex and I and other women get single sex spaces back then great

Let’s do that.

Transpeople exist. That's a fact. Another fact is the men cannot become women and women cannot become men. They can choose a different name, have surgery ,take hormones etc etc. None of this will make a man into a woman or a woman into a man. I have never had a problem with calling the transwoman in our walking group by a feminine name. I have no problem if that person wishes to dress from head to foot in pink lycra. I will never, ever believe that that person is an actual woman. Ever.Thats not transphobic.

My advice would be that if you're worried then you take precautions, like you would anywhere.
I mean everyone has to be sensible but it's not healthy to just believe that because someone is trans that they will be out to get you. It's extremely unhealthy & a waste of energy because most PEOPLE are ok.

Why is it that traumatised women are again and again asked to hold out their traumatic events for certain people to judge whether they are worthy of something they are already granted in law, namely single sex spaces?

The violence has already happened to many of us

Transwomen are men, just like Jewish men are men, just like blonde men are men, just like men of average height build and Intelligence are.....men!

How on earth do people think that saying "I am trans" makes a male man any less likely to be a threat than any other male man?

Why on earth do people think that women have single sex anything in the first place?

Single sex provision are A TINY PART of public life., where women are vulnerable. I reserve the right to be suspicious of males who want access to that.

And this "I'm alright jack" attitude on a feminist board, well, I'm lost for words.

What precautions do you suggest women who feel unsafe being in intimate spaces with strange males take?

Once the battle against transphobia is won, I honestly think the next group that society will target for discrimination will be trans-racial people or the trans-age community.

Please tell me this wasnt a serious comment @PorcelinaV

Precautions as in 'just stay at home' perhaps.

THIS 100 percent

Don’t bother with competitive sport either

"it's not healthy to just believe that because someone is trans that they will be out to get you"

Not a single person, literally nobody is saying that.

Just like nobody is saying because someone is a man they are out to get us. And yet men are not allowed in female spaces.

Oh dear..
Odd thing to say. No-one is getting any kit off. And thanks but I'll do my business where I want & actually it's nothing to do with you.

Return to the urinary leash then. Lovely.

Imagine the outrage if you told trans people they could just stay at home if they don't feel comfortable using facilities for their own biological sex. That would be denying their right to exist in society.

” Transphobia “ has become completely meaningless. Men can’t be women, women can’t be men and no one should be forced to think that people can change sex. It’s not true and we all know it.

In changing rooms that is exactly what people do! Do you think girls should be forced to change in front of males??? This isn't hypothetical. It's actually happening near me - most girls don't want to change in front of males. Why should they have to?

You are the one who wants to invite/allow people who are male into female only spaces and saying ' you don't give a shit'. And that will be spaces where women are naked or partially naked.

So you think that another woman should be silent because they don't happen to agree with you? My view might not tally with yours but if I have that view I'm just as entitled to it as you.
High & mighty up there aye?

Indeed we have been having these discussions on MN since way back when @CoteDAzur. In fact, I think it was one of your posts where I first saw the "Adult Human Female" definition used.

I'm so pleased to see that you are still here.

Every single dog that has ever been born is capable of biting. Every man that has ever been born is entirely capable of hurting a woman. With both dogs and men you have no idea which one will attack until it does. At that point its too late. There is no reason for anyone with a penis to be anywhere where women are removing any part of their clothing. Get out and stay out.

Around 30 years ago I was held captive and subjected to an horrific rape by a 27 year old man who I, in my childish (15) mind was ‘dating’. When I told him I wanted to end the relationship so that I could date people my own age he locked me in his house for hours and repeatedly raped and assaulted me. I didn’t go to the police because I didn’t want my mum and dad to know I’d been seeing this older man.

A couple of years ago I was doing my ‘check up’ on what he was up to now and saw that ‘he’ is now a ‘she’ and is running a group for trans identifying children from the age of 11 - 17. In his little blurb about himself he said that he’d always known he was a woman and only felt able to come out now.

So, was he a woman when he raped me? If I went to the police and he was convicted of rape, should he be in a female prison? Is he now safe to run a group which has children in who are the same age as I was when he attacked me? Is this a ‘scaremongering tactic’?

If I went public about this man I am 100% sure I would get accused by many people of making it up because ‘transphobia’.

Some men will use any tactic to get to vulnerable children and women, they will train as teachers, priests, social workers and yes, they will identify as trans. And anyone who doesn’t see this are being wilfully ignorant.

But no-one is trying to silence you. They are just pointing out that you are prioritising men over women and wondering why.